Black People Politics : Do Y'all Really Believe Hillary Would Have Been Better for Black America than Trump...

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Sis. willa, you keep focusing this conversation on jobs and money, but, surely, you cannot separate the politics from the man that is in the WH. Don't you think there is a bigger conversation that you seem to never talk about...the character of the man and how he behaves and the violence he promotes? Are jobs the end all that Black Americans should be concerned about when it comes to politics and America's system of government?

There is a whole lot more going on in this administration than the creation of jobs and from what is being revealed, it's a lot more serious and is something that is having a devastating impact on this country that we may never recover from and surely won't lead to a better end for Black people. Who wants to model after this guy? You believe in a democracy, how do you feel about autocracy? Do you prefer that system of government over democratic socialism?

What line does this guy have to cross before we start having that serious conversation? We're not talking about dems in the WH because they are not there and when they were, never did the creation of an autocratic regime be a part of the conversation that I'm aware of.

Language has power. Look at the words, the seeds being planted by #45....a coup? The press is the enemy of the people? Fake news? Literally stripping Congress of its authority? Jobs are important, but let's be clear about the big picture and darker story.

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Okay dear Sis Queenie, I'll speak of Trump about other things than more money for our pockets and Nat. Security so we don't have to go to the parts department of decommissioned military equipment to keep our military operating.. How about the fact that he is regulating and building a wall to keep out a rush of undocumented illegals across our borders, bringing with them Fentynol which five grains is enough to kill the user. Also Heroine, Cocaine, etc.. Also child sex slavery. This includes younger than toddlers. Also women. Don't forget the criminal element comes through this way, murderers and vicious gang members that kill for love of it. Democrataic socialism would have us paying for 100% medical and their housing and food. That money takes away from our own citizens who need it.

He has deregulated some job requirements so that we don't lose American companies to Mexico and overseas. This has been successful and has saved the economy of a few states. Which helps the poor.

He is lowering the cost of medication Pelosi said she was going to do but didn't. He has secured the Right to Try a medication that has not yet been released for general use yet, but has good results, for those who are out of choices. It's Try or Die.

A novel thing as a President, he is keeping his promises. He has revived NASA's space science.

He has invited and opened the White House to committees of Black people and officials where he listens as President for solutions. Black History month brought recognition and further invitations for recognition,

Veterans have been upgraded for medical help sooner and better with respect to preconditions being accepted which evidently had not been so much before.

He has given away to charity his $400.000. a month government job pay.

He travels the world talking to other Kings and Presidents for a better world and for a better deal for America in fairness. He knows his math.

He is the best communicator to Americans about what he is thinking and doing -- totally transparent.

He is an unsettling figure to Socialist Dem. leaders when he says, "America will never be Socialist!" Yay! I don't want to lose my freedom. There have been two definitions of a Socialism government, " Famine, and Death by Government Socialism = starvation."

He opened up oil surveys and fields and now America is the leading nation of oil. We are not dependent on the Middle East.

He is not afraid to give GOD credit in his speeches. That goes for us.

He is not the war monger his critics say he is, as demonstrated by staying out of foreign wars. Turks and Kurds example.

The dark thing to say about him -- He calls names. So he is not a shmoozer and that gets him in trouble with the opposition. Like I said, that at times made me want to run and dive into my pillows and cover my head because I am not used to anyone doing that and saying "Oh noooo." But now, I just cross my legs and push a chip into the onion dip.

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Okay dear Sis Queenie, I'll speak of Trump about other things than more money for our pockets and Nat. Security so we don't have to go to the parts department of decommissioned military equipment to keep our military operating.. How about the fact that he is regulating and building a wall to keep out a rush of undocumented illegals across our borders, bringing with them Fentynol which five grains is enough to kill the user. Also Heroine, Cocaine, etc.. Also child sex slavery. This includes younger than toddlers. Also women. Don't forget the criminal element comes through this way, murderers and vicious gang members that kill for love of it. Democrataic socialism would have us paying for 100% medical and their housing and food. That money takes away from our own citizens who need it.
One of the greatest assets of a demigod like Trump is their ability to deceive and fool those who believe in them. Thus making them fools in the process. They lie to them and play on their fears, bias, and racist emotions (Hitler did the same). America's is in great shape. It has the greatest military force on the planet. Trump lied saying it wasn't in order to spend more on needless military projects like a darn stupid space force and needing more nuclear weapons while abandoning our allies such as NATO stating we need to save money. But we know why? Trump is a stooge for Putin. This is what Putin wants. Putin our enemy but Trump's friend.

Trump lied about the wall which is one of the most ridiculous things he could have said (and he has said a lot). Those people who are fleeing the Central America are leaving because of the violence, the poverty, and the unsafe conditions there. It isn't because of the drugs (most of the drugs enter the country through our ports) and child sex slavery (Oh, wasn't Trump accused of having sex with a 13 year old girl). Trump just made that up so he could have a reason to build a wall (which the American tax payers will pay for and not Mexico. Yet another lie) to show his ignorant supporters that he would do it. And he still hasn't done it.

He has also separated children from their parents (some may never see their parents again) and put them concentration camps under terrible conditions. Think of the emotional trauma and the mental scares they will have for the rest of their lives.

Isn't America great. Then why can't we take care of those immigrants medical needs? Isn't that what God and the Holy Spirit for those who say they have them would want us to do. Or should we deny them medical care and let them die because it might take away from our needs (which it won't). Oh, didn't Trump say he was going to make us great again. It so, then we can do it. And wouldn't those of faith know that if we did something good that God would bless us even more. Oh, ye of little faith. But aren't those who are of little faith (which means they trust in themselves more than they do in God) are also the ones who are the most selfish and can't share or give to their fellowman.
 

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One of the greatest assets of a demigod like Trump is their ability to deceive and fool those who believe in them. Thus making them fools in the process. They lie to them and play on their fears, bias, and racist emotions (Hitler did the same). America's is in great shape. It has the greatest military force on the planet. Trump lied saying it wasn't in order to spend more on needless military projects like a darn stupid space force and needing more nuclear weapons while abandoning our allies such as NATO stating we need to save money. But we know why? Trump is a stooge for Putin. This is what Putin wants. Putin our enemy but Trump's friend.

Trump lied about the wall which is one of the most ridiculous things he could have said (and he has said a lot). Those people who are fleeing the Central America are leaving because of the violence, the poverty, and the unsafe conditions there. It isn't because of the drugs (most of the drugs enter the country through our ports) and child sex slavery (Oh, wasn't Trump accused of having sex with a 13 year old girl). Trump just made that up so he could have a reason to build a wall (which the American tax payers will pay for and not Mexico. Yet another lie) to show his ignorant supporters that he would do it. And he still hasn't done it.

He has also separated children from their parents (some may never see their parents again) and put them concentration camps under terrible conditions. Think of the emotional trauma and the mental scares they will have for the rest of their lives.

Isn't America great. Then why can't we take care of those immigrants medical needs? Isn't that what God and the Holy Spirit for those who say they have them would want us to do. Or should we deny them medical care and let them die because it might take away from our needs (which it won't). Oh, didn't Trump say he was going to make us great again. It so, then we can do it. And wouldn't those of faith know that if we did something good that God would bless us even more. Oh, ye of little faith. But aren't those who are of little faith (which means they trust in themselves more than they do in God) are also the ones who are the most selfish and can't share or give to their fellowman.
trump is not the issue. it is those who follow and support him. there is cancer in america.
 

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He has deregulated some job requirements so that we don't lose American companies to Mexico and overseas. This has been successful and has saved the economy of a few states. Which helps the poor.
No, companies are still leaving America. And he has removed all the safeguards and regulations that President Obama (now Obama was a president) instilled to prevent an economic fiasco that happened under Bush and will happened under Trump. Capitalism gone wild and unchecked will lead to a depression.

He is lowering the cost of medication Pelosi said she was going to do but didn't. He has secured the Right to Try a medication that has not yet been released for general use yet, but has good results, for those who are out of choices. It's Try or Die.
He hasn't lowered any cost of medication. He is asking the drug companies to do it. He hasn't sent to Congress any bill to lower medication cost. But Pelosi a member of Congress which has the authority to pass legislation to get drug companies to lower their cost is working on it.

A novel thing as a President, he is keeping his promises. He has revived NASA's space science.
Yeah, to go to the moon again.

He has invited and opened the White House to committees of Black people and officials where he listens as President for solutions. Black History month brought recognition and further invitations for recognition,
Trump doesn't listen to anybody but Trump. Oh, didn't his house Negro Candice Owen say that Black History Month is not needed.

Veterans have been upgraded for medical help sooner and better with respect to preconditions being accepted which evidently had not been so much before.
From what I have heard, veterans are still having problems getting the proper health care. Oh, who is in charge of the VA now? Are you sure that the person in charge is qualified, which most in his cabinet are not or at best are the least.

He has given away to charity his $400.000. a month government job pay.
Well he should but you can never know (you know he lies a lot). Did he provide any proof? Has he revealed his tax returns to us like all of the other presidents have for the last 30 years.

He travels the world talking to other Kings and Presidents for a better world and for a better deal for America in fairness. He knows his math.
The only leaders who like Trump and they really don't but just use him are Kim Jong Yong, Putin, Durantes (killing anyone who he suspects is a drug dealing without proof or a trial), and the Saudi Arabia prince who murdered and chopped up the body of an "American? citizen. No, Trumps doesn't know his math, but they know their.

He is the best communicator to Americans about what he is thinking and doing -- totally transparent.
Then cooperate with the House and give them everything they asked for. Let your staff testify before all those House committees investigating you. And most of all give up your tax returns. And lets have some real transparencies.

He is an unsettling figure to Socialist Dem. leaders when he says, "America will never be Socialist!" Yay! I don't want to lose my freedom. There have been two definitions of a Socialism government, " Famine, and Death by Government Socialism = starvation."
Now what led to the Great Depression? Oh, it was capitalism out of control. And there was famine (soup lines) and killings (people committing suicide). And what brought us out of the Great Depression? Franklin Roosevelt's socialist New Deal.

He opened up oil surveys and fields and now America is the leading nation of oil. We are not dependent on the Middle East.
Well Trump is not visionary. We are now in the 21 century. Fossil fuels are on the way out. Time to start investing and putting our resource in green energy. Most cars being produced in the next seven years will be hybrid or electric.

He is not afraid to give GOD credit in his speeches. That goes for us.
No, he doesn't because he thinks he is God. Didn't he say that he was "King of the Jews."

He is not the war monger his critics say he is, as demonstrated by staying out of foreign wars. Turks and Kurds example.
We shall soon see. But he is doing Putin's bidding. Trump turned his back on Kurds and let Turkey have its way. Now the Kurds have turned to Syria for help. And Syria is going to attack Turkey a member of NATO. Section 5 on NATO states an attack on one is an attack on all. Oh, Russia has Syria's back. Can you image Russia and Turkish forces going at each other? What would NATO do which doesn't support Turkey's invasion into Syria? And this is exactly what Putin wants, a weaken NATO. And Trump is doing this for him. And lets not forget all those ISIS fighters who will probably be let free or escape who lying Trumps said was defeated and not a threat. They will be a threat now.

The dark thing to say about him -- He calls names. So he is not a shmoozer and that gets him in trouble with the opposition. Like I said, that at times made me want to run and dive into my pillows and cover my head because I am not used to anyone doing that and saying "Oh noooo." But now, I just cross my legs and push a chip into the onion dip.
When I was a kid, the President of the United States was someone to look up to. He was someone of the highest moral standard and someone we should emulate. But Trump is the lowest moral person to ever occupy the WH. He swears, lies, calls people names and tries to humiliate them in public. He has lowered the standard of the presidency and is an embarrassment to us as a nation in the eyes of the world. He is a complete jackass.
 
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No, companies are still leaving America. And he has removed all the safeguards and regulations that President Obama (now Obama was a president) instilled to prevent an economic fiasco that happened under Bush and will happened under Trump. Capitalism gone wild and unchecked will lead to a depression.



He hasn't lowered any cost of medication. He is asking the drug companies to do it. He hasn't sent to Congress any bill to lower medication cost. But Pelosi a member of Congress which has the authority to pass legislation to get drug companies to lower their cost is working on it.



Yeah, to go to the moon again.



Trump doesn't listen to anybody but Trump. Oh, didn't his house Negro Candice Owen say that Black History Month is not needed.



From what I have heard, veterans are still having problems getting the proper health care. Oh, who is in charge of the VA now? Are you sure that the person in charge is qualified, which most in his cabinet are not or at best are the least.



Well he should but you can never know (you know he lies a lot). Did he provide any proof? Has he revealed his tax returns to us like all of the other presidents have for the last 30 years.



The only leaders who like Trump and they really don't but just use him are Kim Jong Yong, Putin, Durantes (killing anyone who he suspects is a drug dealing without proof or a trial), and the Saudi Arabia prince who murdered and chopped up the body of an "American? citizen. No, Trumps doesn't know his math, but they know their.



Then cooperate with the House and give them everything they asked for. Let your staff testify before all those House committees investigating you. And most of all give up your tax returns. And lets have some real transparencies.



Now what led to the Great Depression? Oh, it was capitalism out of control. And there was famine (soup lines) and killings (people committing suicide). And what brought us out of the Great Depression? Franklin Roosevelt's socialist New Deal.



Well Trump is not visionary. We are now in the 21 century. Fossil fuels are on the way out. Time to start investing and putting our resource in green energy. Most cars being produced in the next seven years will be hybrid or electric.



No, he doesn't because he thinks he is God. Didn't he say that he was "King of the Jews."



We shall soon see. But he is doing Putin's bidding. Trump turned his back on Kurds and let Turkey have its way. Now the Kurds have turned to Syria for help. And Syria is going to attack Turkey a member of NATO. Section 5 on NATO states an attack on one is an attack on all. Oh, Russia has Syria's back. Can you image Russia and Turkish forces going at each other? What would NATO do which doesn't support Turkey's invasion into Syria? And this is exactly what Putin wants, a weaken NATO. And Trump is doing this for him. And lets not forget all those ISIS fighters who will probably be let free or escape who lying Trumps said was defeated and not a threat. They will be a threat now.



When I was a kid, the President of the United States was someone to look up to. He was someone of the highest moral standard and someone we should emulate. But Trump is the lowest moral person to ever occupy the WH. He swears, lies, calls people names and tries to humiliate them in public. He has lowered the standard of the presidency and is an embarrassment to us as a nation in the eyes of the world. He is a complete jackass.
Okay a couple of facts I spent time looking up not necessarily in order:

Let's talk about the disgusting alleged rape of a thirteen year old girl, a Jane Doe later called Katy, which the legitimate news in paper and TV would be running after that big time. That would be, if true, an aggravated assault on a child, which is a FELONY. The FBI along with police would be all over it. So, as soon as Pres. Trump threatened a law suit which would be a weak response to a Federal crime if it had been committed -- the claim never prospered.

1. Supposedly a Federal file had been opened and three affidavits written up with WITNESSES, a Tffany Doe and a John Doe who saw it all. Really? So they just stood there didn't run for help or try to stop such a thing they just stood to be looky-loos. Mean while a man with Billions and a reputation to protect because of his businesses would not be the least bit worried that witnesses were standing there observing.

The FBI considered there was nothing and so did the police. They thought there was no actual proof of reality in any of that faux claim.

2. Former Democrat Jeb Johnson said, "President Obama was for separating kids from their parents (while the family is detained) as a deterrent to illegal immigration" when caught.

3. The so called cages were put there in 2014. And when did Trump become President? In President Obama's speech he stated that he put more Law enforcement on the border. Undocumented immigrants "must be held accountable to a National Security threat."

4. Pres. Trump signed Two bills that were passed in legislation, one removing "Gag Laws" by the Insurance companies so the Pharmacist can show cheaper places to get prescriptions. He also sped up FDA approvals and stopped hospitals from overcharging meds to patients. Done at the end of 2018.

5. You are right, it is NATO's job to be sending in troops to stop the fighting between the Turks and Kurds. They evidently felt that is a waste of blood in futility because they didn't do it.

6. But aggressive other nations fear our "Jackass". He keeps hostile Communists out of our pasture, including Putin.

7. Context is, it was the President Trump who made Jerusalem the capital of Israel when other Presidents said they would do that, but didn't. So now in their eyes they treat him like a king even to naming a territory after Trump.

8. Fossil fuels are not on the way out, because no one has made an A.O.C. vegetable oil replacement that the world could move on.

9. Yeah, and now we've got Roosevelts New Deal as Capitalism works on. Nuff said. And we had the soup lines as compared to having to kill your neighbors dog like the kid in Venezuela Socialist regime.

10 "Give up your tax returns?" Wouldn't that be Elizabeth Warren and that cute little ol' Socialist Bernie wanting that? Remember he called you "greedy" for keeping your money in your own pocket after your paycheck's reasonable taxes. My question: Are we greedy for the work that we do, to be left with the independence to spend our money with the liberty of way we choose? So if that makes us greedy, what is the government then? And what are they going to do with our money up to 70%? The tables will turn. We will pay government 70% and we get the 30% we used to pay our taxes with. What does Bernie plan on doing with all that billions of dollars, hhhhmmn? Whose greedy?

11 I don't know what Owens said, but obviously Trump respected Black History Month by having it.

12 I think you're right. No more companies are leaving the States. Success.
 

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Let's talk about the disgusting alleged rape of a thirteen year old girl, a Jane Doe later called Katy, which the legitimate news in paper and TV would be running after that big time. That would be, if true, an aggravated assault on a child, which is a FELONY. The FBI along with police would be all over it. So, as soon as Pres. Trump threatened a law suit which would be a weak response to a Federal crime if it had been committed -- the claim never prospered.
There have been several women who have stated that Trump sexually assaulted them but were afraid to come forward. Some have even been threatened. It is no surprise that this then 13 year old girl (Katy) would have been one of them. Trump has even encourage his followers to commit acts of disruptions (subtle violence) if he wasn't elected. And I admired those women who did come forward. That was act of bravery in itself knowing how they would have their entire life scrutinized and how they (the press Fox Blues) would label them as sluts. It is no doubt that she (Katy) was pressured. But Trump supporters will believe any lie he tells. Heck, he has even made sexual comment about his own daughter.

1. Supposedly a Federal file had been opened and three affidavits written up with WITNESSES, a Tffany Doe and a John Doe who saw it all. Really? So they just stood there didn't run for help or try to stop such a thing they just stood to be looky-loos. Mean while a man with Billions and a reputation to protect because of his businesses would not be the least bit worried that witnesses were standing there observing.
Yeah, you are right, "supposedly." Does that file really exist? And why don't they come forward publicly and clear this mess up? Why are these supposedly hiding? Truth is the truth unless it isn't the truth. Also how much have these supposedly been paid? Remember Trump in NY is known as a lying, cheating, stealing businessman by his business associates.

The FBI considered there was nothing and so did the police. They thought there was no actual proof of reality in any of that faux claim.
How many times has Trump criticized the FBI? Heck, he even fired James Conley for doing his job. Trump has his funky AG Barr doing his dirty work to curtail anything investigation that may lead to charges against him. The AG does not serve this country but Trump.

2. Former Democrat Jeb Johnson said, "President Obama was for separating kids from their parents (while the family is detained) as a deterrent to illegal immigration" when caught.
It was done but not to the degree that Trump is doing it. Plus, the condition were much more sanitary and humane. Some have stated that they wouldn't let a dog live in those conditions. And people weren't leaving the DHS under Obama like they are under Trump. And one of the main reasons is because of those concentration camp on the border.

6. But aggressive other nations fear our "Jackass". He keeps hostile Communists out of our pasture, including Putin.
Putin is laughing at Trump behind his back. Putin wants sanctions removed for his invasion of Crimea. Putin wants to be a major player in the Middle East. Putin wants back into the G7. And Putin interfered with our election which all our intelligence agencies will admit but Trump has called them liars. Trump is giving Putin everything that Putin wants. And why doesn't Trump ever consult with our allies? Heck, he doesn't even consult with his own cabinet and advisers. And you call that a leader?



. The so called cages were put there in 2014. And when did Trump become President? In President Obama's speech he stated that he put more Law enforcement on the border. Undocumented immigrants "must be held accountable to a National Security threat."
No, they are "cages." Obama wasn't targeting women and children like Trump is. Most of the undocumented immigrants that Obama sent back were males and many who had criminal records or who had committed crimes in America. Now we have, since Trump became president, women and children coming to our border. This is mainly because of the increased gang violence in Central America.

. Pres. Trump signed Two bills that were passed in legislation, one removing "Gag Laws" by the Insurance companies so the Pharmacist can show cheaper places to get prescriptions. He also sped up FDA approvals and stopped hospitals from overcharging meds to patients. Done at the end of 2018
Bravo! And the Demcrats helped him pass those bills. But more is needed.

5. You are right, it is NATO's job to be sending in troops to stop the fighting between the Turks and Kurds. They evidently felt that is a waste of blood in futility because they didn't do it.
When did I state that it was NATO job? America is a part of NATO. America was there and as the leader of the free world it should take the "lead" with the backing and the support of NATO. With leadership comes responsibility. Trump doesn't want that responsibility for America. And if America doesn't take that responsibility, then someone else will.

7. Context is, it was the President Trump who made Jerusalem the capital of Israel when other Presidents said they would do that, but didn't. So now in their eyes they treat him like a king even to naming a territory after Trump.
Every president has supported a two state solution to the Palestinians and Israeli conflict. They have supported a Jerusalem that is shared by both Jews and Palestinians as the capital. There will be no peace unless the Palestinians receive a fair deal. If they treat him as a king which they don't, will they treat him as their Messiah who is also referred to as the King of the Jews?

8. Fossil fuels are not on the way out, because no one has made an A.O.C. vegetable oil replacement that the world could move on.
Have you ever heard of electricity? Another technology is the hydrogen fuel cell. Oh, I see, you are still stuck in the early 20th century.

9. Yeah, and now we've got Roosevelts New Deal as Capitalism works on. Nuff said. And we had the soup lines as compared to having to kill your neighbors dog like the kid in Venezuela Socialist regime.
Well the kid in Venezuela did eat something and lived. During the failure of capitalism in the 1930s (Great Depression) they were committing suicide.

0 "Give up your tax returns?" Wouldn't that be Elizabeth Warren and that cute little ol' Socialist Bernie wanting that? Remember he called you "greedy" for keeping your money in your own pocket after your paycheck's reasonable taxes. My question: Are we greedy for the work that we do, to be left with the independence to spend our money with the liberty of way we choose? So if that makes us greedy, what is the government then? And what are they going to do with our money up to 70%? The tables will turn. We will pay government 70% and we get the 30% we used to pay our taxes with. What does Bernie plan on doing with all that billions of dollars, hhhhmmn? Whose greedy?
The question was about Trump and his tax returns. Now why hasn't he given them over? All of the other presidents have in the last 30 years. You claim that you believe in transparency. Then why hasn't Trump been transparent.

11 I don't know what Owens said, but obviously Trump respected Black History Month by having it.
Black History Month was going to go on without Trump. But why hasn't Trump attended the NAACP conference as a speaker. He was invited. All of the other Presidents have even Ronald Reagan.

2 I think you're right. No more companies are leaving the States. Success.
Go back a reread my original post. I put a comma between no and companies such as No, companies are leaving still leaving the United States. This is not just a sentence but a sentence in which I am answering to a question.
 

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Would Hillary been better than trumpkof? Hell yes!
Trumpkof and his 40% of out and out racists minions has been a disaster for this country and the world writ large.
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Would Hillary been better than trumpkof? Hell yes!
Trumpkof and his 40% of out and out racists minions has been a disaster for this country and the world writ large.
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Really Ogoun? Trump has been a "disaster" to this country?

Name one president that has invited more Black community leaders into the White House for listening and problem solving. How is that racist? Aren't jobs kind of important for families? for the youth, for anybody? More people employed than the last 51 years.

How would mass illegals coming through open borders as Democrat candidates are proposing, going to help the Black community? In what way? In what way would these illegal people with their issues be a problem for Black citizens? OK, jobs and housing for only two. Trump is stopping as many as he can and evidently there are people against Trump doing that.

By the way, May I remind people that the great City by the bay San Francisco has become the Sanctuary City for illegals to come to avoid being deported. They protect the illegal rush from our borders, even Pelosi and her political group went down to the border to give the key words to pass through Security Guards. Isn't that so understanding and humane of her and her following?!

And now let's look at some natural results; LEPROSY and TYPHUS disease in that city among the "tent squatters." So what caused that? Does it have anything to do with the needles that threaten the kids on the way to school laying all over the ground, or is it 50 tons of feces reported that had to be shoveled up, and the cost for police who have to call in the State Police to help them go through the tents to take out the dead to prevent further disease? Then state taxes went up to 13% to pay for all this extra cost which caused a great exodus of families out of California never seen before.

That is for starts.

Hillary did nothing when she needed to call out our air defense strikes to stop the massacre at our Benghazi Embassy. The airmen went out without approval to save those people who had been begging for help in several messages and didn't get it, because that would have been inconvenient for her. By then it was too late. Bloody spatter and hand prints sliding down the wall. I'm not forgiving it. It was her job.
 

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There have been several women who have stated that Trump sexually assaulted them but were afraid to come forward. Some have even been threatened. It is no surprise that this then 13 year old girl (Katy) would have been one of them. Trump has even encourage his followers to commit acts of disruptions (subtle violence) if he wasn't elected. And I admired those women who did come forward. That was act of bravery in itself knowing how they would have their entire life scrutinized and how they (the press Fox Blues) would label them as sluts. It is no doubt that she (Katy) was pressured. But Trump supporters will believe any lie he tells. Heck, he has even made sexual comment about his own daughter.



Yeah, you are right, "supposedly." Does that file really exist? And why don't they come forward publicly and clear this mess up? Why are these supposedly hiding? Truth is the truth unless it isn't the truth. Also how much have these supposedly been paid? Remember Trump in NY is known as a lying, cheating, stealing businessman by his business associates.



How many times has Trump criticized the FBI? Heck, he even fired James Conley for doing his job. Trump has his funky AG Barr doing his dirty work to curtail anything investigation that may lead to charges against him. The AG does not serve this country but Trump.



It was done but not to the degree that Trump is doing it. Plus, the condition were much more sanitary and humane. Some have stated that they wouldn't let a dog live in those conditions. And people weren't leaving the DHS under Obama like they are under Trump. And one of the main reasons is because of those concentration camp on the border.



Putin is laughing at Trump behind his back. Putin wants sanctions removed for his invasion of Crimea. Putin wants to be a major player in the Middle East. Putin wants back into the G7. And Putin interfered with our election which all our intelligence agencies will admit but Trump has called them liars. Trump is giving Putin everything that Putin wants. And why doesn't Trump ever consult with our allies? Heck, he doesn't even consult with his own cabinet and advisers. And you call that a leader?





No, they are "cages." Obama wasn't targeting women and children like Trump is. Most of the undocumented immigrants that Obama sent back were males and many who had criminal records or who had committed crimes in America. Now we have, since Trump became president, women and children coming to our border. This is mainly because of the increased gang violence in Central America.



Bravo! And the Demcrats helped him pass those bills. But more is needed.



When did I state that it was NATO job? America is a part of NATO. America was there and as the leader of the free world it should take the "lead" with the backing and the support of NATO. With leadership comes responsibility. Trump doesn't want that responsibility for America. And if America doesn't take that responsibility, then someone else will.



Every president has supported a two state solution to the Palestinians and Israeli conflict. They have supported a Jerusalem that is shared by both Jews and Palestinians as the capital. There will be no peace unless the Palestinians receive a fair deal. If they treat him as a king which they don't, will they treat him as their Messiah who is also referred to as the King of the Jews?



Have you ever heard of electricity? Another technology is the hydrogen fuel cell. Oh, I see, you are still stuck in the early 20th century.



Well the kid in Venezuela did eat something and lived. During the failure of capitalism in the 1930s (Great Depression) they were committing suicide.



The question was about Trump and his tax returns. Now why hasn't he given them over? All of the other presidents have in the last 30 years. You claim that you believe in transparency. Then why hasn't Trump been transparent.



Black History Month was going to go on without Trump. But why hasn't Trump attended the NAACP conference as a speaker. He was invited. All of the other Presidents have even Ronald Reagan.



Go back a reread my original post. I put a comma between no and companies such as No, companies are leaving still leaving the United States. This is not just a sentence but a sentence in which I am answering to a question.
The 1939 suicides were those business investors who had been hyper spending on speculation and were wiped out. They couldn't stand the thought of starting all over again.

Yes I've heard of electric cars and it seems nobody wants it.

Actually Trump left Nato because they weren't paying their bills, they expected America to do that. And now Trump has negotiated a deal with the Turks to cease fire. No war. There has been some fringe firing still, but that is the free Syrians not the Turks.

In this country still, one has to prove guilt for a claim of wrong doing. Some people fighting for justice will fall on their sword for the good. Others will leap to a lie for gain. It is easy to dismantle a lie. Trump has a lot to lose and he knows he will be fact checked over and over again. There is no gain for him to tell public lies.
 

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The 1939 suicides were those business investors who had been hyper spending on speculation and were wiped out. They couldn't stand the thought of starting all over again.
No, they couldn't stand the thought of eating dog meat.

Yes I've heard of electric cars and it seems nobody wants it.
Well you're wrong again. Sales of electric and hybrid cars are on the rise.

Actually Trump left Nato because they weren't paying their bills, they expected America to do that. And now Trump has negotiated a deal with the Turks to cease fire. No war. There has been some fringe firing still, but that is the free Syrians not the Turks.
Now do you really believe that? Trump is taking his orders from Putin. Trump is Putin's funky. Putin wants Russia to be "Great Again" and Trump is helping him. It is who pays the bills that has the most say in matters. America is the one that all others members of NATO look to for leadership in the organization. This is what makes us great in the eyes of the world. But Trump has sold his followers some beach front property in New Mexico. Trump is "not" making America great but is making America "weak." Trump has sold (he has even sold his intelligence agencies out) his allies the Turks out and is giving Russia a chance to be a major playing in the Middle East, something they have long wanted but were kept from being one because of strong leadership from our previous presidents, both Democrats and Republicans. Trump has also let it be known that America is no longer an ally whom others can depend upon. In other words, you can't trust or take our word (Trump is a pathological liar). And just think how the U.S soldiers who fought with the Turks feel. Their moral can't be too high knowing that they are betraying a friend. This little cease fire will not last. It will only lead to a bigger conflict later that will cost more lives and destruction. Because America will be weaken. And when you have been the big dog and other dogs know that you are weak, they will challenge you to take your place. Look out America. Here comes Russia and China.

This is same thing that lead to WWII. They let Hitler have is way. Then he wanted more and invaded Poland and it was on. Putin helped Trump win they election in 2016. Now Trump is paying him back. I'm wondering when will enough Republicans get their heads out of Trump's butt and see what is really taking place. But it is obvious that you won't.

In this country still, one has to prove guilt for a claim of wrong doing. Some people fighting for justice will fall on their sword for the good. Others will leap to a lie for gain. It is easy to dismantle a lie. Trump has a lot to lose and he knows he will be fact checked over and over again. There is no gain for him to tell public lies.
Then why won't he release his tax returns? Why did Mueller say that if Trump had not be president, he would have been indicted? Why won't Trump cooperate with the House investigation of him? Why won't Trump let others of his staff cooperate with the House investigation? If Trump wasn't the president, his behind would be in jail. And he knows it. But Trump also knows that his followers are ignorant and will believe any lie he tells.
 

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