Black Spirituality Religion : Do these videos affect your view of Muslims?

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  1. Eno Otu

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    You first have to differentiate the RELIGION and its precepts and its PEOPLE.

    All I see are people which are enjoying adult entertainment, which in itself is not the religion.

    For the most part... men, enjoying the sight of women gyrating their hind quarters for sexual gratification...

    what you don't see there... is prayer, so HOW does THIS have anything to do with religion?

    I am really beginning to have possibly the wrong picture of your ability to think...
     
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    Do they affect my view of Muslims?

    No. What do you think about the following?
     
  4. UBNaturally

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    Who is claiming these are "Muslims" first of all?
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    Snapbacks turned backwards, t-shirts, shorts... are these Muslims?

    But does make me think of a bachelor party of some sort, or wedding ceremony.
    The money being tossed gives me pause though, need more background on what is going on.

    More than likely these are hired entertainment groups?
    Similar to belly dancers...





    Arabian vs. Muslim ... are these to be considered the same?



    The first two videos look like the same dancers, not sure.
    The dance routine and theme is similar.

    Notice in the second video, the man on the drums gets a face full and still keeps thumping... sneaks in a tap to the buttocks on the sly though, and kept rhythm
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    @ 4:40 mark


    But dancing is just dancing, right?


    Atlanta pastor defends church dancing to Chris Brown and Lil Jon music
    November 19, 2014



    http://thegrio.com/2014/11/19/church-secular-music-dancing/


    Guess it all depends on point of view and who is watching the dancing




    Side note...

    Why does youtube allow nudity, as well as cable providers, when it comes to "African" culture, but not in regards to other things?

    https://support.google.com/youtube/answer/2802002?hl=en

    Artistic nudity is permissible, but isn't nudity (void of any context) in itself artistic?


    Discovery Channel's Naked and Afraid series...
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    Discovery Channel's Going Tribal series...
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    Compare and contrast the two series from the same network.
    There is a stark difference between what is allowed to be shown, even though there seems to be no recognizable differences from the content offered.


    I stated this was a side note
     
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    What's the background of the videos posted?
    Does one have knowledge of what the dancing is for?

    And considering this comment:




    What was ones' view before of Muslims before, and what is ones' view of Muslims after?
     
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    You are correct in that according to many Muslims this gathering,not necessarily the form of dance would be considered haram, because its mixed-gendered. The same could be said of practically every social event where men and women are gathered in an entertainment situation. Except for weddings and how do you know that's not the case with the videos you posted? What many refer to as 'twerking' is a traditional African dance that originated in mating rituals. It has never been limited to the African continent. This has been discussed on this site before.
     
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    Nor is it limited to Muslimahs.

    https://m.facebook.com/story.php?st...90429&refsrc=https://m.facebook.com/video.php
     
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    If we all base what we think of a religion on what people do....no one would follow any religion. I don't judge Muslims based on what some may do. Good grief, how old are you?
     
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    I am spiritual, not religious! Do I qualify to respond? The videos document what I've known for a long time now. I.e. Arab muslims are the most corrupt, hypocritical element is Islam, and their Arabized Afrikan muslim counterparts are just as bad. Now is it my imagination or are all of the dancers Afrikan women? Arab muslim men don't allow anyone to degrade Arab muslim women! Only brainwashed, corrupt, and cowardly negroes allow their women to be so degraded.
     
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    How did it affect your view of Muslims?
     
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