Black People : Do I dare tread in this direction?

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  1. cocobutterskyn

    cocobutterskyn Well-Known Member MEMBER

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    Yep! Why not? It may lead to better understanding.

    In my last topic of discusion it was mentioned, women most often are the one who leaves/abandon a relationship/marriage. Well here it goes......I do agree with that. However, I believe some, even most women have good reason(s) Sometimes due to abusiveness,infidelity,financial hardship(meaning) just to be clear....monies loss to....gambling,hangin out with the boys (a lot), addictions etc. Now let me be the first to say. I'm not saying women do not possess some or all of these behaviors. This is only in defense of women who leave/abandon relationships/marriages due to what I would consider legitimate reasons.
    Now I'm going out on a limb with this statement and most probably won't agree(mainly SOME men), but here it comes.......I also believe (some)even most women learn unfavorable behavioral habits from men, referring to....wanting their cake and eat it too. They've been subjected to that kind of treatment for so long, I believe it has come to a point where they've said Hey! If you can't beat'em, join'em. It doesn't make it right, but does it make it fair? :confused:
     
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    cocobutterskyn Well-Known Member MEMBER

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    Kem

    I don't totally agree with you on the money issue. Tell me something Kem? You've mentioned a lot about documentation, have you ever came across documents that states the good women do. I only read negative out burst about women from you. When I read how you address women it puts me in mind of the latest rap music, hoodrat b, chicken head, project h, ect. I've looked over topics you and I have discussed and other topics you have discussed with others and I don't recall reading anything you've said nice about a woman. I could be mistaken, because I haven't read everything you've written. I know that I've directed all my line of questioning to why men do the things they do, but I mention on a number of occasions not all men. I'm not judging you,but this is how I read you. I'm sure you're a very nice person, but it seems to me.......that you had some damage done to you by a woman(men) and you haven't recovered yet. I came to that conclusion because I haven't read anything you've said good about women. Please correct me if I'm wrong? I know you will....lol
     
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    cocobutterskyn Well-Known Member MEMBER

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    NOW WE ARE GETTING SOMEWHERE

    First lemme say.......I was not man bashing. I was asking questions about some men and their behavior. Is that man bashing? If so, I didn't mean it as so. I also didn't mean you were a misogynist. I merely stated that I haven't read anything positive you wrote about women YET. Was that saying you are a misogynist? That is YOUR word. I wonder why? lol.........
    You know, I know what 2+2 =. All I'm trying to get you to agree on is, what you just did..... or tried to. Is MEN DO share some of the responsibility for failed relationships/marriages. No matter how we arrange relationships/marriages there are 2 people, therefor, both bear some of the weight. Now the percentage, I don't know.
    Just when things were getting better, you gotta go and finish with another negative remark. lol.....How about we agree.....out of women's 50%, they talk about it 25% of the time. How's that?...lol
    And again, I WAS NOT BASHING MEN. LOL

    I ain't got nuffin but love for ya:love:
    Coco
     
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    cocobutterskyn Well-Known Member MEMBER

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    NOW, NOW Kem

    There is no need for name calling, You Misogynist.:D I'm trying to keeps this adult like, but you keep trying to pick a fight with me.:D
    Ummmm! Dominatrix...lol....so not me. That's funny.
    Maybe you're not use to dealing with a strong yet gentle black woman.:heart:
     
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    So, so predictable...

    K'stry, K'stry, you are so so predictable...

    and yes, you do believe that if a woman doesn't agree with your assessments then we are bigot, dominatrix, etc.

    and yes you do come off being misogynist, chauvinistic (sp), a "woman basher".

    I agree with Coco, women do leave. Unfortunately alot of them wait too late. After years of emotional and mental and even physical abuse the women finally regain the strength to leave. They say **** what Kemet and society might say. :) Alot of times women become so much apart of the man they lose themselves.

    I said to both men and women, if the **** ain't working and you've been trying to for years, or if it an abusive relationship -- Get the **** out!!!

    BTW, did i say Good Morning!!!
     
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    Thandiwe Well-Known Member MEMBER

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    So he's used this on you too!!!

    the old 2+2=4

    :D
     
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    cocobutterskyn Well-Known Member MEMBER

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    LOL

    Thandiwe, I'm reading your reply now. LOL
    Yeah, he used it and used it and used it...lol I know when he reads this he's going to play the victim and say we're teaming up on him, then women will really be mud....lol
    thanks for your input.
     
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    Thandiwe Well-Known Member MEMBER

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    Doesn't he remind you of someone...

    ;)

    Kemetstry will just contribute this to us being women who never had independent men...:toast:

    He used this one on me today too. LOL

    Peace and Love to you Kemetstry! :love: :
     
  9. nexis5

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    Wrong

    "women learn unfavorable behavioral habits from men"

    The truth of the matter is some women and men learn to accept unfavorable behavioral habits within themselves and do NOTHING about it. Baggage? Carrying past issues and ideologies into a new relationship.

    Women and men need to get their SCHIT TOGETHER before they come out the house claiming maturity and its consequences.
     
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    nexis5 Well-Known Member MEMBER

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    Furthermore....

    Screw the whoa is meism and BE STRONG and have CONVICTION in everything. Including SELF.
     
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