Black Spirituality Religion : Differences In Kemetic Theology

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  1. SAMURAI36

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    EN ANKH HEH SHEM HOTEPU to all:

    I have been a practicioner of Kemetian Theology for over a decade, in junction with other similar spiritual systems.

    The 2 most prominent Kemetic organizations in the African Spiritual Community are the SEMA Institute led by Sebahy Muata Ashby, and the Ausar/Auset Society led by Sheqhem Ur Sheqhem Ra Un Nefer Amen.

    I was wondering if there are any members of Destee that are members of either (or both) Societies.

    As for myself, I am a student of both systems.

    My studies of both systems have led me to understand that the theologies of both are slightly different, though not at all opposing to one another.

    Amen's teachings of Metu Neter ("Divine Wisdom") are based on Ausarian Theology, whilst Ashby's teachings of Shetaut Neter ("Divine Mysteries") are based on Anunian Theology.

    Both systems have their foundation in the PA'UT NETER (Tree Of Life, or Pantheon of Deities), though the positioning of the deities for each system is slightly different.

    In my understanding, this is not a discrepancy on either part of each teacher, as both the Anunian and Ausarian Theologies were in practice simultaneously in Kemet during ancient times.

    It should be seen as a different discipline of science (Astronomy in comparison to Astrology), rather than a contradiction of each other; both utilize the principle aspect to express ultimately the same understanding.

    Personally, I find the Ausarian Theology of Metu Neter to be more beneficial on a practical level (God in Self), while the Anunian Theology gives great understanding to the cosmology of the Universe (God In the Universe).

    Anyways, that's my perspective in a nutshell, and I was just wondering about the perspectives of others:

    How long have you studied and/or been a member of either Society?

    What prompted you to join other one?

    What have you learned about Kemetic culture during this time?

    If you are a member of one Society, what is your perspective regarding the other?

    HOTEPU
     
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    Excellent thread

    I'm never been a member of either society, but have crossed paths with a few who have, and had a former girlfriend that was a former member of the Ausar/Auset society.

    I've learned a few things about the veneration of Ausar, that I'm not at liberty to go into right now. However when I was 16 a brotha in Brooklyn named Semalj taught me alot about the fundamentals of the relationship between myself and the neteru, and what the symbiotic role between the two are.

    I also got into the oracle if Ife, when I turned 22. and today I have altars oriented for ancestors in both traditions.
     
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    :great: I don't belong to any society, as it is probably obvious. Looking forward to hearing all about it! :luvv:
     
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    Degree of Understanding is only Difference

    Hotep
    In African life there has always been different scools of thought or "Houses", Specializing in different disiplins that are usualy passed down though family members and are secret. Every one in africa in the "Old-Times", meaning before "White-Folks" or pre-history.
    In the rich Nile Valley, Black Africans came to gether and over time pooled resorces and became more powerful because of their "Unity". During these times "Every thing" was spiritual and every thing built had a distenct purpose. As we begain to record our "Thoughts, Words and Images on Skins,Papirus,Clay and Stone, these were all known by the "Initiated" as the "Medu Neter" (Medu - meaning words; and Neter meaning G-d). Hence, the Medu Neter was and should be called "G-d's Words" or "The Word of G-d", The origanl sacred writings. As the "Invaders" came in and kept coming and finaly took over, they (Indo-Europians) began to re-write and place them self in (Origanl-Black-Peoples) our place. Not having a true conection to "Any-thing-African", so-called knowlege became confused and dis-torted. Some "Sages" or Prophets were kid-naped and taken to Europe to translate, so they (Whites) thought, and others were killed while most fled into the interior of the home-land of KMT or upper Africa. Some Sages with the true collective knowlege gravitated to the area of Mali and Dogon. The point is, the combined secrets and mysteries have never left the place they were first born, only fragments have made it to the "West". One has to be "Initiated" into the mysteries by someone who is willing to except one into a "Grand-Lodge" or African Traditionl Religon (Most of all, one must be ready with a Pure Hart). For example, Dr.Yusef Ben Jachcanan is a 360 degree master of the craft and is recognised by the other true (Sages) or Masters of the Craft.
    Ase`
     
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    There is a sect of so-called "KEMETIC teachings" known as the KEMETIC ORTHODOXY.

    This is the biggest sham the world has ever known.

    It is ran by this over-weight White woman. In fact, it is chock-full of sweaty, overweight white people, and other wayward weirdos with a passing obsession of "EGYPT".

    Don't take my word for it, see for yourself:

    http://www.netjer.org/images/album/r2k3seminars/aad.jpg

    http://www.netjer.org/images/album/r2k3seminars/aaf.jpg

    http://www.netjer.org/images/album/r2k3seminars/aai.jpg

    There is nothing African-oriented about this group whatsoever.

    This is their website: http://www.kemet.org/home.html

    Listen to the non-sense that they teach:

    Glossary of the Names

    "Netjer," a Kemetic word meaning "divine power," is the One Self-Created Deity which manifests in myriads of forms, which we call Names (Kemetic Orthodoxy is a monolatry, a specialized form of polytheism that is NOT monotheism -- see the "What is Kemetic Orthodoxy?" page for more information). The actual number of Names, sometimes more simply (but misleadingly) called "gods" and "goddesses," figures in the thousands. This glossary is a detailed listing of the most common Names and includes the most accurate information possible regarding Them. The Kemetic Orthodox approximation of how the Name would be pronounced is included, along with the mainstream spellings.


    This is as wrong as a thong on a fat broad. :puke2:

    Speaking of "fat broad", this is their leader:

    http://www.kemet.org/images/hemet_flags.jpg

    A fat, funky, sweaty white woman, that has other fat, funky sweaty white devils and a few ignorant Blacks praying to her:

    http://www.kemet.org/images/blessing_imyseta.jpg

    Also:
    http://www.kemet.org/clergy.html

    Why the hell are these people calling themselves "REVERENDS"?? What does that have to do with KEMET, or Africa proper? :confused:

    Take notice in all the pictures on that site, how there are very few, to NO black people present.

    For all who read this, please know that this has NOTHING to do with METU NETER nor SHETA'UT NETER.

    There is no way on this earth, that I would support this garbage. The days of looking to white people for anything--especially for my spiritual and intellectual growth--are long done and dead.

    The only 2 legitimate clergymen that are qualified to teach Kemetian Theology are RA UN NEFER AMEN or the AUSAR AUSET SOCIETY, and SEBAHY MUATA ASHBY of the SEMA INSTITUTE.

    Both are Black Africans.

    HOTEPU
     
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    Mikyia wo to all,


    I actually have studied longer under The Sema Institute (8 years) than the Ausar-Auset Society (6 years). I am not a member of either (just a student of both systems), but more than likely I will become a member of the Ausar-Auset Society sometime this year.

    The hands-on approach that the Ausar-Auset society employs is priceless. The truth being taught in this spiritual system is evident by your actions. Also, it helps that there is a chapter here in Atlanta. :)

    I have learned more in regards to the history, the language, the myths, and how this way of life can solve most of our problems if only we apply the teachings to our lives. I have discovered that this is what a lot of students in both systems fail to understand.

    From what I have studied in regards to each spiritual system, I feel that the Ausar-Auset Society lays a more grounded foundation with a more sublime teaching. This is not to slight the Sema Institute, because I love what they are doing. However, I find the Ausarian Theology a more noble practice to cultivate one's spirit.



    Htp.u
     
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    Curious about Kemetic

    I just started doing some research on the Kemetic culture. Excuse me, in advance, if it is not best defined as a culture. I think the responses from the "Differences in Kemetic Theology" provided a good start to my research.

    One thing that fascinates me is the 77 Commandments, which I learned is the basis of living life the Kemetic way. Can you tell me a little bit more about the 77 Commandments?

    Also, what are the views on sexuality/sex (e.g. what is the purpose of sex? Who can have sex?). This is also an interesting focus topic for me because in regards to religion, it can pose controversy.

    Finally, I am aware that there is this book entitled, "The Kemetic Diet..." by Dr. Ashby. Can you provide me a synopsis of what the Kemetic diet is? I know a few people that practice Kemetic philosophy. They try to avoid chewing gum and drinking any liquids with ice. I don't mean to offend anyone by the following question- I think this cutback is a little extreme. Can you explain why the afroementioned should be avoided?

    When you respond, can you identify the source of your information? (e.g. where did you study?) Thank you, in advance, for your responses. I look forward to reading them.
     
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    Hello CCB...


    Welcome to Destee. I hope you find your stay here pleasant, informative, uplifting and encouraging. I'm sure you'll find the information you seek. There are many brothers and sisters here with more than adequate knowledge on this subject. Again thank you for gracing our website with your presences.


    Peace and Love.....
     
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    Beloved,

    Are you referring to the "Negative Confessions" of Ausar?
     
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