Black Spirituality Religion : Did you know "Amazing Grace" was written by slave-trader / slave-owner - John Newton?

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  1. Destee

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    Peace and Blessings Family,

    Did you know that the song "Amazing Grace" was written by slave-trader / slave-owner, John Newton?

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    It seems he had some regrets regarding his participation in the slave trade, and this song was born.

    He also wrote "Thoughts Upon The African Slave Trade" in 1788.

    I had no idea ... it kinda makes me think of the song in a different way.

    How about you ... did you know already ... does it impact your thots regarding the song?

    Love You!

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    peace

    Yes, indeed. This is why i try to caution the religious about singing these songs like they do. most of them were written by slave traders and masters, as they heard our ancestors humming and chanting on those vessels and in the field.

    "amazing grace, how sweet the sound that saved a wretch like me". He was talking about himself, as you touched on. The black women in the church sing this song the strongest and loudest and most of them probably never knew what a wretch was, or ever been one in their lives.

    They even made a movie about it:

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    So this just begs the question of what else are the religous parroting and practicing that they don't really know the origins of? Because the same thing goes for christmas, Easter & Thanksgiving. Like this song, those holi-days are not about us, they are all about them and their paganistic rituals celebrating rape, murder, beastiality & their homosexual fixations. All of which ever had anything to do with us.
     
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    Tru'dat!

    Cause I'm not a "wretch".

    Good lookin' on pointing that out. I had to
    inform a few chu'ch heads on that before.
     
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    Peace Sis and fam,

    I do. Learned of it in one of Old Souls classes a few years and I was indeed 'amazed'.

    P.S. I would like to know what a "wretch" is as well..looks like I have some more homework today.
     
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    wretch (r[​IMG]ch)
    n.
    1. A miserable, unfortunate, or unhappy person.
    2. A person regarded as base, mean, or despicable: "a stony adversary, an inhuman wretch" (Shakespeare).


    [Middle English wrecche, from Old English wrecca, exiles, wretch.]
     
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    I know this much already, but I assumed that theres more of a background to it as is many old english or latin words, but this definition is pretty straight forward.
     
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    yeah...a wretch is a wretch...lol

    one love
    khasm
     
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    Since slavery was practiced in Africa by Africans of Africans and the Trans-Atlantic slave trade was made possible by African participation, I would say it would have been desirable for some "Amazing Grace" by Christian conversion of the type experienced by John Newton to have been spread to ALL of the WRETCHS who participated in the slave trade.

    Oh, boy...here it comes...the revisionist and ancestor worshippers will come out in denial that Africans held slaves or that any Africans helped make the Trans-Atlantic slave trade possible.
     
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    yes i know and yeah it has impacted my thoughts after knowing that, and that's why i don't like the song.
     
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