Black Spirituality Religion : Did the Biblical God Cause Adam to Sin? Genesis Revisited

[cherryblossom]

Originally Posted by cherryblossom

And if the lawyer got them off on a "loop hole," then imagine what kind of subsequent repercussions that would have on the rest of humanity?

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No repercussions at all

Peace and Love

LOL Well, mine was a rhetorical question, just a musing on my part.

But, I sho saw your answer comin'!

 

[Fine1952]

I'm way past the level of

acknowledging:

the bible
the Jesus
or the God for that matter....!

It is all a made of form of slavery straight from the head of European female hating YT men -- that many adults "still" continue to feed into and subscribe to as though it were the fire breathing truth -- which it isn't.

Hopep, Fine

 

[Angela22]

God creates a man and does not give him the knowledge of right from wrong , good from evil. he puts that knowledge in the fruit of a tree then tells the man not to eat that fruit.

I posit that Adam's fault was not disobedience at alal but in discriminant obedience.

Having no concept of good and evil Adam did not know that he should obey god and not others. He simply obeys everyone. He obeys the commandment of god until the next person comes and gives him a new commandment.

The Father did not cause Adam to sin nor Eve. Just because they had no knowledge of good and evil does not mean they didn't understand to obey; they feared the Father as all His faithful servants do, and after hearing they would die in a day, they could gather it would be best not to eat so that their life would not end and His wrath wouldn't be upon them. It was nothing to do with: they would just obey anyone that told them anything.

They knew fear and they knew love in the Father, thus they knew to obey until they were beguiled, Eve by the serpent and Adam by Eve.

 

[Keita Kenyatta]

God creates a man and does not give him the knowledge of right from wrong , good from evil. he puts that knowledge in the fruit of a tree then tells the man not to eat that fruit.

I posit that Adam's fault was not disobedience at alal but in discriminant obedience.

Having no concept of good and evil Adam did not know that he should obey god and not others. He simply obeys everyone. He obeys the commandment of god until the next person comes and gives him a new commandment. When Eve offers Adam the forbidden fruit he takes it immediately. There is no struggling with his conscience. No wrestling with whether it is right or wrong. He knows nothing of that.

Eve, on the other hand, being a woman and somewhat more receptive to the spirit world offers the serpent brief scrutiny of what he tells her to do. Not because she thinks it is wrong but because she has a slight perception that dying may be something she doesn't want to do, though nothing in her world had ever died so she quickly brushes her concerns aside.

The god of the bible returns and as if he does not understand the psychology of the humans he has made he acts as if Adam has done something wrong and worthy of punishment. And now we are to believe that because of these circumstances which the god of the bible set up himself the entire human race is worthy of eternal punishment.

This doctrine does not exist in the old testament. It does not exist in the gospels. It came into existence because the Church realized that they could not convince people that they needed Jesus to save them from their sins when these people had a standard of morality higher than that of the Europeans who were supposedly trying to save them. The doctrine of original sin excuses the degraded behavior of the proselytizers and discounts the superior morality of the so called savages.

I've even heard a preacher say that hell is full of good people. Many of our enslaved ancestors rejected Christianity because they had been beaten and raped, and killed and humiliated in every conceivable way by those who were trying to perv xxxxx I mean convert them and death was their only hope of rest. The thought of spending eternity in a heaven full of white folks was too much.

Sis, how have you been lately? I do hope all is well. In reference to your question, it needs to go back further. There are missing scriptures. Scriptures which state that Jehovah was created by a Woman, his mother. People want to play games but don't want to do the research. Sher gave him some of her power and he made the mistake of saying that "He was God and besides him there is none". According to those missing scriptures Jehovah was punished for this crime.

 

[Josef]

sorry to drift off topic a bit, however it seems man has always accused woman of causing mankind to fall yet I see it THIS way.

Say for example that I tell my eldest son not to eat the apple pie on the counter and that in the fridge there is other yummy things to eat, just STAY AWAY from the pie I just made.

well if my youngest son comes in the house wanting to eat the pie on the counter, I am depending on the oldest boy to make certain
to remind the youngest that Daddy said 'dont touch'.
if I come home and they both ate it, im going to punish my oldest first and foremost.
He is my first created child, I gave him a direct
order, and HE was left in charge while I was away.
Now if I know that he isnt capable of being left in charge lacking leadership skills because me as a father hasnt given him time, experience, circumstances to develop that skill, then should I really punish him?
The Adam/ Eve story sounds rushed and seems the biblical God set them up to fail from the not so beginning.