The following are excepts from several responses on a discussion about DL BROTHERS. In the near future I will print the email debate I had with several individuals on the matter. However I must warn you that I have a zero tolerance for faggots (DL BROTHERS) and my un-wavering position may be more than you can bare. During the course of that discussion we touched on manhood and this was my response. In My Humble Opinion You asked me what is my definition of a man? I thought about this over and over and there is no one defining act but here is my shot at it . All through my formative yrs my mother had a great influence on what I perceive a man to be today (yes I said mother not my father) She always held manhood in some high unattainable esteem, like it was some great thing to be a man! She would say things like if I were a man.... I would do this and if I were a man I 'd do that, any male can make a baby but only a man can be a father, during the civil rights movement she said if she were a man she would speak up for this and that, and what she would not allow the white man to do to our people if she were a man she would not allow another man to disrespect women. and god forbid to lay a hand on a woman all these factors are what make me a man today Ya see I wanted more than anything to be a man in my mothers eye's someone she could respect! So I grew up thinking to be a man was something special, like a superhero! and since there were only 1 or 2 black superhero's so being a black man was really, really important! As a kid growing up in the south Bronx I saw all the pimps, pushers, hustlers, number runners, dope fiends, bums, wino's and the list goes on. I knew that I didn't want to be like them, I didn't want to even be like my father cause, she even unknowingly pointed out some of his less than manly traits.(she never spoke derogatorily about him but while pointing out what her vision of a man was I could see that he lacked some of those qualities) What I've tried to do with my life was to be a MAN, a hero for my people in the community, a good husband to my wife, a provider and father to my sons, a role model to others young men, a community activist, a spokesperson, a coach and a mentor. All of these things culminate in me and in my mind, but the one thing that stands out is protector of our women, a shield that they can stand behind to feel safe, someone they can run to when danger is about. As a black man no matter what, or who the foe. no black woman will come to harm in my presence! That's what a man is a protector One more point did ya see the movie "CRASH" did you see the pain of Terrence Howard's character because he did not defend his wife, while that white man violated her?(he was supposed to take a bullet or a beat down before allowing that to happen) I hope I am making sense here I felt his frustration and anger, but along with that an in borne pride that gives me the courage to stand up and step forward and even DIE for my sistah's! Too long have we hidden behind them. Too long have we let them protect US. Too long have we been quiet, while they spoke up,and quiet while our women were disrespected Our women should feel the safety of their men. These are (so called) grown @$$ MEN that don't have enough pride in themselves to step from behind our women and show themselves, for fear of what brunt they might have to take, because they are cowards. And to go one step further they are the dregs of our society inflictlng disease on our entire race! Some of you can stand by watch, say nothing do nothing other than vilify me for using a derogatory term (fagg*t) to describe their abhorrent behavior and not the soft pastel one (DL MAN) which they prefer. If my lone voice is causing pain for these people it is just a microcosm of what they are causing for our people. Finally, and I will say no more on the subject. I say to these males step from behind our women's petty coats stop being a fagg*t and be a man, BOY! But the real question is, do you live your life in service , or does it just make you feel good to talk about it? this is UPTOWNE baby!