Black Spirituality Religion : Dear Believer: Why Do You Believe?

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  1. RAPTOR

    RAPTOR Well-Known Member MEMBER

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  2. RAPTOR

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    HoTeP, brotha Broham, when you get a chance, watch it.
    The questions asked are presented in a reasonable, respectful
    manner.
     
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    Seems like some of the questions posed by others before, the responses should be interesting.
    Video was not that long, and easy to watch.

    Thanks
     
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    What assumptions? I went back again, to listen to it
    as far as you have. The questioner was asking nothing
    but questions. So what, in that 2:05 segment did he
    assume?
     
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    Why do we have to call the stranger a "fool"?
    Anyway,

    Is that in full context?

    And "heaven" is an english word for a place
    the spirits/souls go went they transition from
    this existence.Given that, "heaven" is not your
    own. The way you believe heaven to be however, is
    your own.

    He stated, and I quote:
    " Dear believer, ever wonder why your heaven resembles
    a utopian earth and is composed of the same
    base elements found right here on this planet?"

    Nothing disrespectful about that. A reasonable
    question.

    Since you are not up on other belief systems,
    as you've asserted in your previous post. I can
    attest that nearly every spiritual system/religion
    image and or believe that where they go from
    this life, is a space that is.....very very nice. Very
    peaceful and do resemble a landscape not to different
    than what we find on earth. For what else can one envision,
    if they a have never (to their knowledge), ever transitioned
    before?

    So, I do not believe he was singling 'you' out.
     
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    And there is nothing wrong with that.
    However, do you say that everyone who
    envisions heaven, envision it as you do?
     
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    Raptor, people
    are not ready for this.
    this would require thinking
     
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    HoTeP Broham,

    Lets not split hairs.
    And what is the definition of "abode"?
    A residence, and some other terms, I am sure.

    You seem to be having conflict with his articulation.
    If you can tell me, and prove that way in which one
    perceives "heaven" or whatever word in some other
    language/culture is exactly how you see it, then you
    may be standing on solid ground. But that would
    then mean, you are familiar with other belief systems,
    of which you said you could not speak for.

    I am sure that most of the viewing audience,
    christians included, get what I am saying, and I
    will hazard to guess that they do not see any-
    thing wrong with how I defined "heaven" and
    would find very little to nothing inconsistent
    with how I defined it as it relates to how it is
    defined in the dictionary.

    So,
    Lets not overlook the questioner's point,
    which again a reasonable question to ask.
    I find no assumption in asking a question,
    for there are christians who image heaven
    not so different than you the questioner
    articulated it.

    Again, I see no assumptions. Only your disapproval
    of how he describes "heaven" with what you believe
    heaven to be.

    Having said that, let us not reduced the video to
    heaven. I trust you have the capacity, and is well
    grounded in your own belief to push pass that.

    But if you cannot; there is no dishonor in that.
    And if this is as far as you are willing to go, then
    I will end here in thanking you for your response.

    HoTeP.
     
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    I may have taken your words out of context, for
    you said "I can't speak for other believers". With
    that I assume you are speaking not only of believers
    of your faith, but believers of other faiths.
     
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    Outside of Broham, this thread may
    likely fall into the ether.
     
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