Justice Council : Council Members Must ... (Add Your Must Haves For Council Members)

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  1. Destee

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    Peace and Blessings Family,


    I think Council Members Must be respected by the majority here.

    I believe it will be very difficult to get folk to honor your decisions, if they do not respect you. Folk may not always agree with you. They may not always like you ... but they gotta be able to respect you ... this is a must that problee has to be there ... but it's yall's to do ... and maybe respect isn't a big thing to yall ... and maybe the respect can be gained with the decisions made as a Council Member ... that's certainly possible ... i don't know ... but i think for this to actually work ... problems are resolved ... decisions honored ... then respect for the Council Members will be necessary ... i think.


    I think Council Members Must be familiar with Our Higher Standards.

    Everything we do here, including this effort, must be within the confines of Our Higher Standards. I am honored to even have this official effort being tried. It may not work this time, may take 2 or 3 or more times before we're able to pull it off, but i don't care ... i'm honored right now ... for we have to be at a certain place, a good place, to even consider such a thing. Thank You! But anyway ... yeah ... you gotta kinda know the rules because your decisions will have to consider them and act according to them.

    Knowing the rules isn't real easy ... i suppose the easiest way to know if someone is qualified enough regarding them, for this council ... is to see which Members have never had to talk to me about a rule.That would be a good measure. Those who have never broke a rule, is another good measure. For to be in either of these places, means you understand our rules ... which are considerably different than anyone else's rules ... and we'll always be applying ours ... so ... knowing our rules (on a basic level) is a must. Another easy way to know if someone knows the rules, is if they are helping others know the rules, that's a real good sign too ... and you see it often, if you're looking. All of these examples can be found in the community discussions, because we do everything out in the open ... :)

    Those are my only two ... Council Members Must ... right now.

    You got any?

    I say they are "my musts" ... but they don't gotta be a part of the end result ... yall get to do this how you want ... i just thot i'd share my ideas ... if'n you find 'em helpful ... :nails:

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    Council Members Must Demonstrate the Ability to Resolve Their Own Differences Positively

    I don't see how someone who can't work out their own issues, interactions, etc., to positive ends ... will be able to do it for others. Evidence of one able to resolve their own differences positively, is the Member that is rarely in a disruption with another Member.

    Just my thots ... yall can take 'em or leave 'em alone ... :nails:

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  3. Asomfwaa

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    And my candidacy was eliminated . . .. :)

    As I understand it, we are waiting for skuderjaymes' input.

    However, I would think regular elections, perhaps monthly, would make Council Membership all the more meaningful and up to date.

    Naturally cliques may arise ergo rigging elections; or for instance, one can encourage multiple accounts strictly for elections which can be a problem too. Yet if nothing else, inactive Council Members will less likely be a problem if the Membership is constantly updated.
     
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    These are just my thots ... you guys don't have to employ them ... there may be other ways to achieve the same, or even better ways, as you've described above ... considering more things ... i'm just throwing thots out here ... :)

    As far as skuderjaymes is concerned, he's put a great idea on the table, but the success of it can't and won't depend on just him ... this is a collective effort ... and well ... the show must go on ... he'll probably be proud of our progress during his absence ... and just get right on in where he fits in ... it's all good in da hood ... :)

    Also ... don't underestimate the respect Members here have for you ... :love:

    We may have to come up with some voting process or something ... however we do it ... i have no doubt you'll be in the "Respected Members Group" ... no matter what.

    AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAANNNNNNNDDDDDDDDDDDDD ... for the record ...

    I am so AGAINST CLIQUES ... it's official ... years old ... i aint that clique chick ... :uzi: ... :)

    So don't worry about that ... this effort has to live up to the standards ... and yes ... maybe keeping the council rotating is the thing to do ... i don't know ... howsuneva yall wanna do it ... is fine with me.

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    I agree 100%. I feel that if we are fair, and consistent, and conduct ourselves correctly, that respect will come. I was reading over these standards in order to use them as our foundation. They are sound, rational, and fair, so there is no need to reinvent the wheel. I want to see the work, I agree with you when you said that this will expand who, and what we are. I love being second to none...:D

    This is also a challenge for me, as i told Brutha Clyde, I have to change some of the ways I have that might not be favorable in the eyes of some. I'll use that debate with Rapchild as the perfect object lesson. Even though I had some legitimate gripes, what you were saying was true, and right. I should have thought back to how I was and had understanding. And thank you for the lesson sista..

    I also agree that transparency is a must,...a big must. That way all will know who said what. IMO, nothing erodes cohesion faster that backtalk, backstabbin, and being two faced. Below are some of my thoughts, please comment to see if this is close to what may work. The sole purpose is to act as a proxy for you, minus the final say'so.


     
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    Thank You Brother Enki !!!! ... I Love It All !!! ... Very Thoughtful !!!!

    I'm not really in the decision making process of this, so it's more about what others think, so you all can come to a consensus ... and the chances are great that i'll have no problem with any of it! Thanks so much for the love!

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    I agree, though it's possible, possible that he's concocting something at the moment. And, well, if he's taking this long to concoct something, I don't mind waiting to see it. :)

    I don't underestimate it--I overestimate it. :p

    That's a great vote of confidence. :)

    I must admit that cliques are very easy. It's said that people need images. I think that in the midst of discussions, people give off an image of themselves that, for what it's worth, we need as Africans. For instance, an African like myself may think Destee's impartiality or NNQueen's calmness are great aspects of African Womanhood and Clyde Coger's resolve for our people or Perfection's praise of womankind are great aspects of African mankind; but another African may disagree or even see something different. So naturally, those who see good images of some people and not so good images of others, also make images of themselves and sometimes, especially in this diversity, what appears to be "cliques" forms.

    I don't like cliques either. Though the diversity, to me, just brings it out.

    Edit: Especially as the most overlooked violation, from my perspective, is personalizing the discussion. And sometimes seeing a Man or Woman's image attacked, those who like their image may speak up in their defense--or some other 'cliquish' behavior. Though I would hope this isn't an ironic violation . . ..


    We'll see. In a sense we are waiting for a member; but that wait may be productive yet. :)
     
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    I think there's room for it all ... us moving forward now, without Brother Skuder, and incorporating any great ideas he may bring upon his return ... yep ... there's room and time for it all. This will absolutely have to be a work in progress, continually evolving, for we'll be learning as we go. What we think might work at the outset, may be proven ineffective, requiring a change ... that's probably how it's gonna work ... leaving room for ideas to be welcome at every juncture of the process.

    In addition ... no matter what one may conjure up on their own, the collective must still have a say on if it is actually implemented or not ... so ... whether he's here now or later sharing with us ... it'll all be good in the hood.

    I disagree with you on the clique stuff ... we've always been diverse and i think we've successfully avoided sanctioned cliques here at destee ... sure a Member may like another Member, they may form a pact, or email away from the site, or talk on the phone amongst themselves with a few others ... i don't consider that a clique ... but ... i hear you .... and i'd attend that debate, front and center, if someone wanted to claim that this community is full of cliques ... that actually influences outcomes. I don't believe it.

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    Asomfwaa ... plus ... as far as Brother skuderjaymes goes ... we really can't wait for one person, before any of us get to work ... that's not leadership ... and we're talking about building a leadership team ... so ... waiting on him, before we attempt to make any substantive progress would probably be disappointing to him and the effort.

    You can't wait on someone else, when you want to see / get something done ... i don't think.

    A collective effort is just that, not dependent on one, and i think that's what he meant this to be.

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    Well, it wasn't my idea. I was just following leadership. As we say in Malawi, “He who thinks he is leading and has no one following him is only taking a walk.”

    Enki and I were discussing some sort of format, I can reformat it and bring it up again (at a better hour):

    http://www.destee.com/index.php?thr...stice-system-council.76873/page-6#post-813615
     
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