Black People : Could this be more un-Democratic??

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  1. YeshuJah

    YeshuJah Well-Known Member MEMBER

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    I am posting a link to an article I read on Newsweek.com which I think is indicative of the ridiculous extremes to which things can go in the name of Patriotism. In my opinion, all of us who love freedom should be troubled by what this article has to say.

    http://www.msnbc.com/news/639017.asp?cp1=1
     
  2. nexis5

    nexis5 Well-Known Member MEMBER

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    Opinion

    Hmmmmm. I'm still weighing a lot of things.

    Yes this is a national tragedy and it affects all of those born on AMERICAN soil.

    War is nothing new. Terrorism is nothing new. Death is nothing new.

    This tragedy is more than what it is. More than what is seen on television. More than speeches. More than flag waving. More than singing and candle vigils.

    All that I ask is for people to be informed on all aspects of this tragedy. This did not happen by some fluke chance.

    There is nothing wrong with questioning and exploring every feeling and inquiry that THIS tragedy has.

    Let those who want to mourn, mourn. Let those who want to protect, protect. Let those who want to protest, protest. And let those who want to suggest, suggest.
     
  3. nexis5

    nexis5 Well-Known Member MEMBER

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    Zealots

    Zealots come in many shapes and forms.

    If one can not address all there is to explore in the aftermath of this tragedy, then what exactly is a PATRIOT.
     
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    Well Yeshujah

    I read it I am baffled.. What happen to our rights and I feel as though they have just gone out the door. See i can only say what affects me.. but to see how this has affected others and its impact on the world itself bothers me... I agree with that fired reporter.. I am nervous to see the future. We as American personally need to get ourselves right cause all these actions taken place lately truly ridiculous.. they keep this up.. we will aslo beefing with ourselves. Not to mention it insults us and show how stupid we as american are to allow the government to even control us.... but let me shut my mouth before i end up somewhere.. if its that serious.. then i'm going to do whats best... for now...( and that comment alone is sad) For me to even have to say such a thing....

    Also, I see you are from Florida.. how is everything down their.. I know thats where they found the anthorax disease.. are you located near their?.. you have any detailed info on it being that you're from that state?

    And Nex: I am in agreement with you.. except on the last verse: Let those who want to mourn, mourn. Let those who want to protect, protect. Let those who want to protest, protest. And let those who want to suggest, suggest.
    Unfortunately.. it seems after reading these past columns that this is not the case.. See our suggestions aren't really heard when you think about.. what about all our complaints to this past election... they were dismissed.. and right now.. our rights are being dismissed... And more than anything our freedom of speech.. Cause for the most part that starts with the journalist.. but it ends up affecting us as whole... they want to have ID's for all American.. Like i said before.. I wonder what the future has instore for us all....
     
  5. YeshuJah

    YeshuJah Well-Known Member MEMBER

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    its a sad thing to see.

    nexis5, I share your concerns about not being able to openly voice any and all opinions about the Sept 11th tragedy. I think it behooves us to be very careful what we say, and to who we say it. Sure, it is not the American thing to have to do, but in the wake of this event much of what passed for 'American' is being traded in for collective security touted in the name of Patriotism. Thank you for your comments.

    shanek, I agree with you on many counts.. this whole thing presents a future that can become very uncomfortable for anyone who chooses to think for themselves. I feel that it is quite possible that we are headed back to the McCarty era. It is sad to see America descending to the very depths the Russians are trying to come out of. Whenever a society looses its ability to self critique without individual reprisal it looses its ability to sustain true democracy. As far as the whole anthrax thing goes, I am about 300 miles away outside of Orlando. I cannot give you any more information than you are getting on the news. Thank you also for reading and commenting on this article.
     
  6. nexis5

    nexis5 Well-Known Member MEMBER

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    The definition.

    The definition of what is AMERICAN is being rolled out into an abstraction.

    I keep hearing statements like this. Check the context. "This is AMERICA." and "We're AMERICANS". An opened definition that leads one to define the AMERICAN. I havent even mentioned the anti-AMERICAN sentiments from abroad.

    Sure there are constituitional rights, freedoms, histories and social changes that did not happen over night.(taken for granted)

    Forgive me if I start ranting. I have always enjoyed the HISTORY of AMERICA during the 1800s. I saw it as a baby EMPIRE trying hard to get its thing together. (INDUSTRIAL REVOLUTION)

    Forgive me, because I'm going to further explore this idea AMERICAN. All that it means and all that it has to offer.
     
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    YeshuJah Well-Known Member MEMBER

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    I look forward

    to your findings. I guess I just kind of dropped into that-
     
  8. nexis5

    nexis5 Well-Known Member MEMBER

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    Quagmire

    on the questions given on todays Presidential News Briefing....

    I am truly amazed at the comprehensiveness along with redundancy.

    Its funny. I'm starting to admire the redundancy.

    If this dude says "smoke em out" one more time!
     
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    nexis5 Well-Known Member MEMBER

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    In fear of...

    In some instances I have fear. I would love to hop on anything either flying out or sailing to Australia. Screw this nickel and dime anthrax infection confirmation bull. Nah! :D

    Fear withstanding and I'm sure we have all heard and digested different slants and reasonings behind 9-11.

    We are now a little over a month with the tragedy. How do you feel? Are you one of the reported who are going on with your life?

    Not with a fear but with a heighten sense of what living is all about? Did the petty bull drop away? Were you already a person with zest for life?

    If you reading this... nexis5 wanna ((((((((((((((hug you)))))))))))))

    Show some love. :)
     
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