Black People : Could 2010 be year of Black Republicans?

I'm confused....

Republicans are conservative and Democrats are liberal...So how can there be no such thing?

I was paraphasing Malcom X, circa 1964.

Are you an economist or political science?

Economic theoretical frameworks in modern Amerikan system are basically driven by conservative or liberal politico-economic policy agendas. Moderates are somewhere in-between and can be politically independent.

Reaganomics flourished because of the so-called Reagan Democrats.

Both parties have both conservative and liberal wings. Southern democrats (i.e Dixiecrats) tend to be conservative, while California republicans tend to be more liberal than southern Democrats.

This is why folks like Schwarzenner and Liberman are able to ride the fence between both parties.

Personally, i know a lot of Black folks who are liberal in social policy but fiscally conservative.

If you take close examination of primary election maps from 2008 election, Clinton won states closely representative of same states that Bush beat Gore. Obama won very few states below Mason-Dixon line. However, Obama also won areas of states such as Texas, where he took counties Denton and Collin which are traditional bastions of white conservatism. I lived in Texas at the time and helped mobilize his campaign in north Texas and was surprised by the large turnout who actually view Obama as a centrist.

As far as someone stating Obama is a socialist...not true. The irony of his current political opposition on health care is the fact that the lobby group headed by Dick Armey was one of the health care lobbyists that contributed heavily to Obama's "money web".

Political parties are basically fronts for camouflaging liberal and conservative policy agendas and most top level financial are lobbyists, most often working for the same interests playing both sides of the fence.
 
Please allow me to explain this a different way.

Democrats/republicans represent the same class interests. They are political elites who often fluctuate between conservative and/or liberal policies depending upon the constituency in which they are seeking to exercise their sphere of influence.

This is known as divide and rule strategy.
 
I was paraphasing Malcom X, circa 1964.

Are you an economist or political science?

Economic theoretical frameworks in modern Amerikan system are basically driven by conservative or liberal politico-economic policy agendas. Moderates are somewhere in-between and can be politically independent.

Reaganomics flourished because of the so-called Reagan Democrats.

Both parties have both conservative and liberal wings. Southern democrats (i.e Dixiecrats) tend to be conservative, while California republicans tend to be more liberal than southern Democrats.

This is why folks like Schwarzenner and Liberman are able to ride the fence between both parties.

Personally, i know a lot of Black folks who are liberal in social policy but fiscally conservative.

If you take close examination of primary election maps from 2008 election, Clinton won states closely representative of same states that Bush beat Gore. Obama won very few states below Mason-Dixon line. However, Obama also won areas of states such as Texas, where he took counties Denton and Collin which are traditional bastions of white conservatism. I lived in Texas at the time and helped mobilize his campaign in north Texas and was surprised by the large turnout who actually view Obama as a centrist.

As far as someone stating Obama is a socialist...not true. The irony of his current political opposition on health care is the fact that the lobby group headed by Dick Armey was one of the health care lobbyists that contributed heavily to Obama's "money web".

Political parties are basically fronts for camouflaging liberal and conservative policy agendas and most top level financial are lobbyists, most often working for the same interests playing both sides of the fence.

I see...Thank you for your explanation. I get what you are saying...

And as far as being an economist or political scientist...I have no clue:)

 
I see...Thank you for your explanation. I get what you are saying...

And as far as being an economist or political scientist...I have no clue:)

No problem. As i stated Obama is no socialist. I remember during the primaries how conservative commentators such as William Bennet and Michael Reagan stated how many republicans would vote for Obama just out of pure hatred of the Clintons. They also predicted Obama would win the more he moved to the center, and it was this centrist position which gave him political leverage with independents and moderate republicans. They even view Mccain as too liberal and not a true democrat.

Obama's major stumbling block in healthcare reform is not the rebpublicans bu the same conservative, southern democrats in the House. The traditional "Dixiecrats". Obama has moved further to the right to appease them alienating the liberal wing led by Pelosi (northern Cali traditional liberal).

And look at the Senate. If it had a true liberal majority it would be more ethnically diverse. But it's essentially lily-white with the exception of Obama's replacement who is a die-hard from the Chicago machine built by former mayor Harold Washington.

So, a year for black Republicans? Possibly, but they will be just as ineffective (perhaps moreso) as their democratic counterparts because they are tokens and pawns in a game which relegates them to position of "figurehead" and nothing substantially more.
 
What does it all mean...

I think over the years the identity of who a Republican was and the definition of conservatism has changed. Now days when we think of Republicans we see middle aged, balding, arrogent, wealthy White men who completely rigrid in their thinking. Conservatism has come to mean anti-abortion, prayer in school, pro-big business, anti-labor union, anti-poverty, anti-minority, Christian, etc...


I think as Black people as long as we remain here we must align ourselves not with political parties but with ideologies that will afford us the most prosperity. I can't agree with the radicial extremism of the Tea Party Movement but I do recognize the we need tax reform in this country in the worst kind of way. Agree that the health insurance industry need some sort of oversight to keep it from gauging us in a monopolized industry but I'm not comfortable with the government having access to my medical history or the kind of care the government would provide. Being a Gulf War veteran myself after I tore my knee up while on active duty performing my job. I can tell you that after my surgury I was never the same. This ultimately ended my military career. The military gave me a 0% disability rating. I feel if I had the option and could have afforded it I would have went to a sports medicine doctor that specialized in joint repair. This is my greatest fear about government health care. If I could get the same health care as the president then maybe. I know that's not the case. In exchange the government will literally have complete control over my information and health care.



Am I a Republican for thinking this way? Hell no! Am I a conservative by the current definition of what a conservative is. Not close. I think we should adopted the same philosophy our ancestors 50 years removed from slavery. We valued education, we valued self reliance and entrepreneurship, we were independent from the government and we had a stronger sense and family and community. Whatever you want to call that philosophy is what we should be.
 

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