Black Spirituality Religion : Contradictions in the Holy Qu'ran.........

Sam

Peace black...



All the "book knowledge" in the world will do you no good if you don't have a proper moral compass to guide you and keep society together.

It's a fact that not only were Arabs massacaring eachother wholesale with absolutely no type of restraint over the most minor and petty of disputes (just like we are today), but they used to worship stone statues, abused the institution of marriage or ignoring it all together by taking on as many women as they desired and abandoning the ones they no longer wanted and call them "mother", ate human and animal feces, ate eachother, practiced regular homosexuality and incest.....all part of their paganistic rituals of magic and superstition.


And despite the wealth of knowledge the LEADERS and a chosen few of those civilizations had, most of the people remained illiterate and enslaved to the wealthy...much like it has returned to today.


This is all as a result of gross ignorance of moral values.


After the coming of Islam the varioud warring families and tribes were united under ONE banner of morality and a concrete set of principles that stablized the society and allowed them to pool all useful and positive forms of science and knowledge together in order to create on of the greatest and longest lasting civilizations this world had ever known.


The Islamic empire spread farther and faster than any in history.
 
Ralfa'il said:
Sam

Peace black...



All the "book knowledge" in the world will do you no good if you don't have a proper moral compass to guide you and keep society together.


I agree with this totally and whole-heartedly.

It's a fact that not only were Arabs massacaring eachother wholesale with absolutely no type of restraint over the most minor and petty of disputes (just like we are today), but they used to worship stone statues, abused the institution of marriage or ignoring it all together by taking on as many women as they desired and abandoning the ones they no longer wanted and call them "mother", ate human and animal feces, ate eachother, practiced regular homosexuality and incest.....all part of their paganistic rituals of magic and superstition.

Can you provide some references to substantiate these "facts"?

And despite the wealth of knowledge the LEADERS and a chosen few of those civilizations had, most of the people remained illiterate and enslaved to the wealthy...much like it has returned to today.

I agree that the often-times self-appointed leaders of most societies have exploited the predicaments of any given society for selfish end. However, I'm requesting that in the ancient Arabian case, if you could provide who some of these leaders were, and during what time periods they ruled in.


After the coming of Islam the varioud warring families and tribes were united under ONE banner of morality and a concrete set of principles that stablized the society and allowed them to pool all useful and positive forms of science and knowledge together in order to create on of the greatest and longest lasting civilizations this world had ever known.

I'm not sure where this understanding comes from (still looking for references), but even the various ISLAMIC CALIPHATE warred with each other. There was never any real unified "Islamic civilization", except when the European Christians threatened to wipe Islam as a whole out. Only then did Muslims unify, but it was under a political agenda, and not necessarily a religious or even cultural one.

You are aware that these Caliphates still held slaves and brutalized women, yes?

And what were the "forms of science" that you speak of? It's a researchable fact that the Islamic world had furthered very little on the intellectual and scientific fronts after Muhammad.

They spent all their time warring (either with each other, or with the white man), to dedicate any time science.

Not to mention with the exception of AL-AZAR in CAIRO and the school in Baghdad (both of which are more religious institutions than scientific), hardly any scientific schools were erected in the Muslim world since that time.

For that matter, little to no structures were built that were not Mosques--none the likes of the QA'BAH or the pyramids.

Where is the Post-Islamic intellect?

Speaking of which:

The Islamic empire spread farther and faster than any in history.

Although that's not totally correct (ROME had them beat, and so did ALEXANDER), you have to take into consideration HOW the spread so far and so quickly.

Islam spread through war, not through intellectual achievement.

Besides, spreading far and fast is not necessarily a good thing; diseases spread far and fast as well.

Also, most species that are in harmony with their environment need not spread beyond their intended means, and whenever they do, they are quickly equalibrated.

Empires fall eventually.

PEACE
 
I'm asking for bibliographical references.

That's different than posting info from various websites.

If that's all it took, then we'd all be internet geniuses.

Anyone with a computer can type up some info on a website and post it up, and pass it off as information, but scholarly research requires hours, months, and years of study.

PEACE
 
peace,

Did any of Noah's sons drown in the flood?

In Sura 11:41-43 it is written, "And as the Ark moved on with them amidst the mountainous waves, Noah cried out to his son, who was apart: 'Embark with us, my child,' he said. 'Do not stay with the unbelievers!'

He said: 'I shall seek refuge in a mountain, which will protect me from the flood.'

He said, 'None shall be secure this day from Allah's judgment, except those to whom He will show mercy!' And thereupon the billows rolled between them, and he was drowned.



But in Sura 21:76 it is written: "And (remember Noah). When he invoked Us, We heard his prayer, and We saved him and all his kinsfolk from the great calamity, and delivered him from the people who had denied Our revelations. Evil men they were; We drowned them all."
 

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