Science and Technology : Constant facts

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  1. macoo

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    In the following picture we will see how Allah be He exalted drives the water cycle, the Qur'an talked very precisely about these facts ...

    The Qur'an told us in a scientific way about all related facts to the water cycle and descending of rains. Let us look attentively at these holy verses which speak about every part of the water cycle.



    The sun is the driver of the aquatic cycle, God says: (And we have made (therein) a shining lamp (sun).) (Sûrat An-Naba'-verse13). Sun spreads the necessary heat and light to evaporate water and to form winds.
    Winds are the second driver of the aquatic cycle, God says: (And We send the winds fertilizing (to fill heavily the clouds with water), then cause the water (rain) to descend from the sky, and We give it to you to drink, and it is not you who are the owners of its stores [ie to give water to whom you like or to withhold it from whom you like].) (Sûrat A-Hijr-verse 22).

    Water which descends from the clouds is stored in the ground for hundreds of years without being spoiled, taking into consideration that anyone may store the water for only couple of days it will spoil; God says: (it is not you who are the owners of its stores) (Sûrat A-Hijr-verse 22).
    After evaporation of water it condenses in the sky in form of clouds, then winds fertilize the clouds, God says: (And we send the winds fertilizing) (Sûrat A-Hijr-verse 22).
    The Qur'an told us about the high heavy clouds which are responsible for rains and ice, God says: (See you not that Allah drives the clouds gently, then joins them together, then makes them into a heap of layers, and you see the rain comes forth from between them; and He sends down from the sky hail (like) mountains, (or there are in the heaven mountains of hail from where He sends down hail), and strikes therewith whom He wills, and averts it from whom He wills. The vivid flash of its (clouds) lightning nearly blinds the sight) (Sûrat An-Nûr-verse43)

    The water "which descends" is stored inside the ground in form of sweet springs to enable life to continue, God says: (See you not that Allah sends down water (rain) from the sky, and causes it to penetrate the earth, ( and then makes it to spring up) as water-springs, and afterward thereby produces crops of different colors, and afterward they wither and you see them turn yellow; then He makes them dry and broken pieces. Verily, in this is a Reminder for men of understanding.) (Sûrat Az-Zumar-verse21). If these crops are not transferred to the yellow to be dry and broken pieces and if it remained Green, the cycle of plant wouldn't be renewed and we wouldn't get benefit from those broken pieces which transfer to be oil over hundreds of yeas .

    Scientists say that all of these operations are according to very organized and constant physical laws, God says: (And we sent down from the sky water (rain) in (due) measure and we gave it lodging in the earth, and verily, we are Able to take it away.) (Sûrat Al-Mu'minûn-verse18). Look at the word "in due" which refers to discipline and arrangement.

    The most important part in this cycle, what is happening at the area which is called the mouth (where rivers flow in seas), Qur'an says: (And it is He who has let free the two seas (kinds of water): this is palatable and sweet, and that is salt and bitter; and He has set a barrier and a complete partition between them.) (Sûrat Al-Furqân-verse 53). Unless Rivers are flowing in seas, those seas would be drought. That what happened in the Aral Sea which was supplying by two rivers and because of a human interruption by stopping that supplying, the sea became empty.
    Scientists say that mountains have a vital role in the descending of rains, forming the clouds and in water purification. God says: (And have placed therein firm, and tall mountains, and have given you to drink sweet water?) (Sûrat Al-Mursalât-verse 27). In this verse a clear link between the mountains and the sweet water.



    These verses were descended 1400 year ago, with a precise description for the water cycle which was discovered 100 years ago! Isn't this a proof that the Qur'an is the book of Allah?


    Majesty the word of God and the name of the Seal of the Prophets Muhammad appears in the sky الله-محمد))​
     
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    Islam,

    Since this is not the study group forum, you are open for questions, correct?

    Did you fast during Ramadan?

    Who is this Allah you are mentioning & how do you know Allah is a he??

    What proof do you have that Muhammad (p.b.u.h.) appeared in the sky?
     
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    Aren't "facts" subjective?
     
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    Let me first say that what you are talking about is part of my job,and it is from that position I'm responding to you. What this is called is the Hydrologic Cycle (if you want to look it up) and you are making some big errors IMO in your comparisions.



    First,wind is formed by the rising and sinking of air. As air rises,the pressure lowers, and the surrounding air moves in to replace it which causes wind.

    Secondly, the wind is not a driving force in this process. The main driving force is the sun because it allows evaporation and transpiration to occure.

    How do you explain the freshness of bottled water? How do you explaing the water in my mug on my desk that has been there since Tuesday...wait.... *sip*..yep..still fresh


    The thing that gets me here is the language and order.

    Strong updrafts uses moisture to form hail by pusing the rain up into a colder and higher atmosphere. When this happens,rain freezes into ice.

    So hail is not formed in clouds,moisture is.


    Four words: ground saturation equals flooding.

    You just said that the ground is staurated (spring up as water springs). I'm not a farmer but I'm sure not all crops can grow properly this way.

    This is true,this process does have a order and follow the laws of physics.

    No...all parts are equally important. Show me how this ordered process can happen without evaporation,infiltraion, and percipatation?

    This is like saying you can grow an apple without a tree. On one hand you invoke the laws of physics then you throw them out the window by making statements like this.


    Did this also stop the rain from falling,or the sun from producing heat? So it has no bearing on this process.

    Water purification?..To what degree? These verses are not a precise description of this cycle, not if you say that one is more important than the other.

    Peace!
     
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    No, opinions are







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    But can't there be facts that support opposite opinions on the same topic, thus relegating the facts as subjective ideas?
     
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    Yes. They are separate from your opinion(s) though. 2 + 2 = 4. Therefore everything I say is true. Which is fact? Which ios opinion? Does that make both equivalent?






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    No, it doesn't make them equivalent, it just makes them subjective.
     
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    2 + 2 = 4 is objective. It is not an opinion. It is nutral.






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    If we're talking about math, I would agree.
     
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