Black People : Confronting anti-black racism among Latinos - Us Vs Them?

Kadijah

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Good grief! This could have been written by a black person about black people!!!!

For some of us who grew up in Latino families in the United States, anti-blackness was firmly instilled in our minds from the moment of birth. Among siblings in the same family, grandparents, aunts and uncles, and sometimes parents themselves can become fixated on a child’s complexion.
Black folk, too. As well as EVERY mixed group (India-Indians, Greeks, Italians, etc.)

In Spanish-speaking households, I’ve heard countless phrases such as, “She’s pretty, even if she’s black.”
:news:

Though many of us experience it within our families and in our day-to-day lives, anti-blackness among non-black Latinos often remains unexamined. We’re not necessarily proud of these practices and rarely air them publicly, though when we are called upon to shake these practices, we often dismiss the conversation.
Black people DO engage the conversation. Only diff is we reaffirm our color prejudices when we do so. See the threads on the actress Lupita for corroboration. :rolleyes:

But as Latinos become an increasingly large part of a non-white majority in the United States, we must remain vigilant about anti-blackness in our families, communities and movements, or risk a future of our own making in which black lives are treated as though they do not matter.
The thread is wrongly titled. It should be "THEM vs. us!"

Btw, see how Latinos "think" they're going to take over the country and black people will STILL be "on the bottom of the barrel?" Smiling at that notion while thinking sarcastically: 'How white of you.':10400:

While George Zimmerman’s vile vigilantism is an aberration, we need to admit that people like him, Ted Cruz and Marco Rubio are not total anomalies; we need to admit that they are like some of our own family members who murmur slurs, lock car doors and cross streets to avoid black people.
Black Latinos as well, presumably.... including members of their own families. Sounds like "white" Latinos are chomping at the bit to throw off their color-caste system for the more Americanized racism. :10100:

When we begin dating, some of us are told that we have a duty as Latinos to “mejorar la raza,” which means, “to improve the race.”
In the 1940s and 50s, it was a common expression in the black communities of America to "marry light to improve the race." **sigh** Fortunately, we're pretty much over this group insanity.

This is sometimes directly told to us, but also inscribed in comments about other couples. I remember when a friend’s mother casually commented on her nephew’s choice for a partner, and rhetorically asked, “He’s so handsome, but why is he with that black girl?” Those observations, and countless others, communicate the expectation to make our future generations whiter.
Not necessarily. While I understand the author's point, the above example shows a lack of understanding of "psychology", i.e., he's so handsome, thus can get any girl but he chooses to date the most (in the Latino's racist view) "ugly" girl he can find. Why? Because he's narcissistic (and most likely emotionally insecure), i.e., wants all the attention to be on him and for her to be grateful, feel lucky that she has "him that's all that!"

Dating can lead to marriage, which can lead to children, so the message we are expected to internalize is that Latinos should literally become as white as possible over time. “Improving the race” can mean dating and marrying whites only (including white Latinos) — and specifically staying away from indigenous, black, Asian or mixed potential mates; in this hierarchy, white is the most desirable condition, while black is the least.
Whomp! There it is! THEM who expect to be lords and masters of America through popping out baby after baby (not hard work or intelligence, but swamping us with numbers), against us. Wake up call for all the black simple-minded, wishful-thinking we-are-the-worlders who insist that Hispanics are our "friends." :rolleyes:
 

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Does one article so easily back your pro black/anti brow claims?!?

But just berating you is not what I'm about:

And getting you to realize listening/learning/etc. from others, i. e., getting you to realize and recognize why some of us, who also .have afro latinos as family members, different personal relations with latinos, not the same adversarial relations as whites have with us or visa versa, is why I and we have to agree to disagree, e. g., I and we also admit how complex such issues/problems/etc. were and are, also difficult if not impossible to find means/ways/etc. to resolve...

The individual unjustly acquitted of the murder of a young teen was and is a case study of an issue/problem facing us all, via the sad legacy of the whitewashing of other colored folk thruout the Americas, only new and news to us, in the states....

But I need not dislike every black person I disagree with, I also need not loathe every brown person I wouldn't buy one of those light beers they drink, etc.

We too had folk who dared to suggest merely having bigger births etc. would automatically make us the equals of whites:

Now single parent black female headed households go begging for our help and support...

So much for what is just popularly believed, not always true...

Take care...
 

Omowale Jabali

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This is not an "Us vs Them" scenario. It's an in-group dynamic that Latinos need to work out among themselves. No need for black people to confront them or to get involved in what is essentially their issue.
 

Kadijah

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Does one article so easily back your pro black/anti brow claims?!?

Does one response so easily back your LIBELOUS contention that I am anti-brown?

But just berating you is not what I'm about:
But committing LIBEL against me is?

And getting you to realize listening/learning/etc. from others, i. e., getting you to realize and recognize why some of us, who also .have afro latinos as family members, different personal relations with latinos, not the same adversarial relations as whites have with us or visa versa, is why I and we have to agree to disagree,
Since 1) I don't filter my opinions through others' lenses and 2) my reply was not directed to YOU, no need to "agree or disagree." My post stands.

The individual unjustly acquitted of the murder of a young teen was and is a case study of an issue/problem facing us all, via the sad legacy of the whitewashing of other colored folk thruout the Americas, only new and news to us, in the states....
No, it isn't.

But I need not dislike every black person I disagree with, I also need not loathe every brown person
1. I don't dislike ANY black person I disagree with.... provided it's not personal.
2. I loathe NO brown person.

Does that make me a better human being than you? :rolleyes:

We too had folk who dared to suggest merely having bigger births etc. would automatically make us the equals of whites:

Name the insane black :nuts: who said the road to equality is for black people to have more babies.

Take care...

Backatcha! Especially take care with the spurious allegations that trample all over the libel laws.
 

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