Discussion in 'Black People Open Forum' started by jamesfrmphilly, Apr 17, 2017.
I think the cowards way is to kill unarmed and unprepared people. But he did that too, so....
I don't think anyone one is in any position to tell someone they don't have a right to be angry or emotional at what was done, but neither are people in a position to tell someone who they can and can't forgive. How about everyone stop trying to dictate how an individual, separate from themselves, reacts to tragedy? Know your place.
I'm guessing that's what he planned all along. Get some attention, then off himself feeling like he still "won" 'cause he didn't get caught. What a disturbed person he was in life and death.
This is supposed to be a conscious forum so the people here aren't going to be cool with black folks who subscribe to pacifism. Bending over and taking it from white people is what we've been taught since they brought us here. When black people adopt that ideology it's offensive. I know my place and I know this place, and I can assure you that several people here ain't gonna be cool with folks on that docile, subservient behavior. I for one am unapologetic about my position on that.
And I know people in the real world who ain't cool with that, "I get to tell you how to feel 'cause we the same color" behavior.
Everyone reacts differently to tragedy. Black people seem to think we're the ones who need to all feel the same exact way when something happens to someone from our community.
If someone else forgives an act of violence that you yourself don't forgive, how's that affecting you? If you don't want to be associated with them, everyone's free to speak their mind. I see people do it a lot.
What's tiring to hear is when others imply it's the white man who taught us to forgive as if it's not something natural to do as a human being, all on our own. The white man didn't give us our feelings; he ain't start this ish, and he ain't the end of it; he ain't the first and only reason why any individual black person wants to forgive or be angry or whatever. I don't see why black folk can't let other black folk be.
You don't seem to be at all concerned about the environment in which you speak. The is a black, progressive and in many ways rebellious forum. We are all about addressing the concerns and needs of black folks.......unapologetically. Pacifism has already been tried. Dr. King was a patriarch in that regard. He died for it. Most of us are past that and for those who aren't I'll give them a travel ticket so they can get on board.
There are those who want to let people be...... I get it. I ain't one of them. As the true and living God of the universe, it's my job to give correction to those in need of it. It's not a job for everyone and I get that also.
I hope you see the contradiction in that. You're either a lousy pacifist or you don't understand the concept of "everyone's free to speak their mind." If that's what you think then you're in no position to be giving people correction.
If white people getting ragged on bothers you, you might be in the wrong place because it happens here a lot. If this concept of forgiveness is so natural why is there so much religious propaganda about the concept? Why do I have to read books about a concept that is supposed to be written in my DNA? Hmmmmmmmmmmm........ Here's a concept that is very natural...... SELF PRESERVATION! My self preservation at times is at odds with forgiveness and the older I get the less grace I have for people who cross me.
you have heard of stockholm syndrome, right ????
Wrong, but okay. Believe how you want.
Ah, I see.
Or maybe you're lousy at comprehension. I don't believe it's your place to tell others how to feel and react to tragedy nor to chastise them for not feeling the exact same as you when these things happen, but you're still allowed to speak your mind. I didn't say you weren't allowed to do that.
Yeah, real lousy comprehension. How is owning our emotions, saying we are in charge of how we feel, and that white people have no part in that... the same as being bothered about white people getting ragged on? Hint: It's not.
It's not propaganda. People go against what's natural all of the time; so we often have to be reminded what's normal and what isn't in this corrupt and abnormal world.
Self-preservation? Lol, mortals.
Will disturb their own peace for someone who didn't bring about their beginning, but always harping on as if they can prevent their own end.
But hey, do what ya gotta do.
Yes, and? If you think we're so defeated, what's even the point anymore. White people own the world, all the money, and even our feelings, it seems.
Do you stalk me on here, btw. You always, always got som'n to say about what I'm saying, elder James.
As the true and living God of the universe, it's my job to give correction to those in need of it.
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