Black People : Christmas Do You Celebrate it?

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I Celebrate Christmas and I always have....

  1. A Decorated Pine Tree

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    16.7%
  2. Lights In My Windows Or On My House

    16 vote(s)
    44.4%
  3. Misletoe

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    2.8%
  4. A Wreath

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    13.9%
  5. Gifts To Give

    17 vote(s)
    47.2%
  6. Went to Church

    8 vote(s)
    22.2%
  7. A Santa Claus

    2 vote(s)
    5.6%
  8. A Big Dinner

    15 vote(s)
    41.7%
  9. Alcohol And Offered It To My Guests

    8 vote(s)
    22.2%
  10. Wished For a White Christmas

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    2.8%
  11. Christmas Songs Playing

    15 vote(s)
    41.7%
  12. None Of The Above

    14 vote(s)
    38.9%
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  1. RunawaySlave

    RunawaySlave Banned MEMBER

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    I’m curious as to what are the reasons Black People buy mistletoe, wreaths, lights, exchange gifts, max out credit cards, put up pine trees, decorate them, put lights on their house, wreaths on their cars, sing Christmas carols, send cards etc.

    I don’t celebrate using any of these symbols does anyone know their origins?

    Please select all those that applied to you in the past and apply to you in the present.
     
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    1hotvirgowoman Well-Known Member MEMBER

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    No, I don't celebrate Christmas and I never have!.
     
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  4. Zoraida

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    Well, we serve coquito, give gifts, cook dinner, string up lights and play salsa songs for X-mas. It is just another day off from work and a time set aside to come together with folks. I also like to be a part of fund-raisers for homeless families even though I do some community work during the rest of the year.
     
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    http://www.lasttrumpetministries.org/tracts/tract3.html



    The truth is that all of the customs of Christmas pre-date the birth of Jesus Christ, and a study of this would reveal that
    Christmas in our day is a collection of traditions and practices taken from many cultures and nations.

    The date of December 25th comes from Rome and was a celebration of the Italic god, Saturn, and the rebirth of the sun god.

    This was done long before the birth of Jesus.

    It was noted by the pre-Christian Romans and other pagans, that daylight began to increase after December 22nd, when they assumed that the sun god died.

    These ancients believed that the sun god rose from the dead three days later as the new-born and venerable sun.

    Thus, they figured that to be the reason for increasing daylight.

    This was a cause for much wild excitement and celebration. Gift giving and merriment filled the temples of ancient Rome, as sacred priests of Saturn, called dendrophori, carried wreaths of evergreen boughs in procession.

    In Germany, the evergreen tree was used in worship and celebration of the yule god, also in observance of the resurrected sun god.

    The evergreen tree was a symbol of the essence of life and was regarded as a phallic symbol in fertility worship.

    Witches and other pagans regarded the red holly as a symbol of the menstrual blood of the queen of heaven, also known as Diana.

    The holly wood was used by witches to make wands.

    The white berries of mistletoe were believed by pagans to represent droplets of the semen of the sun god.

    Both holly and mistletoe were hung in doorways of temples and homes to invoke powers of fertility in those who stood beneath and kissed, causing the spirits of the god and goddess to enter them.

    These customs transcended the borders of Rome and Germany to the far reaches of the known world.

    The question now arises: How did all of these customs find their way into contemporary Christianity, ranging from Catholicism to Protestantism to fundamentalist churches?

    The word "Christmas"itself reveals who married paganism to Christianity.

    The word "Christmas" is a combination of the words "Christ" and "Mass.

    The word "Mass" means death and was coined originally by the Roman Catholic Church, and belongs exclusively to the church of Rome.

    The ritual of the Mass involves the death of Christ, and the distribution of the "Host", a word taken from the Latin word "hostiall" meaning victim!

    In short, Christmas is strictly a Roman Catholic word.

    A simple study of the tactics of the Romish Church reveals that in every case, the church absorbed the customs, traditions and general paganism of every tribe, culture and nation in their efforts to increase the number of people under their control.

    In short, the Romish church told all of these pagan cultures, "Bring your gods, goddesses, rituals and rites, and we will assign Christian sounding titles and names to them.


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    Here is some truth about Christmas.

    :uhoh: When you have some children, try and draw the belief from them and find yourself on the outside. They will think you cruel. Things have truly been turned against the truth and against man.

    So should we now rip the heart out of every child?
     
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    Black people do this because everyone else does it.

    I don't celebrate Christmas because it's stupid. It's all about gifts and what someone can get someone else to buy them. It's a consumer holiday and the only people that benefit from it are the stores that get all the people to buy their crap.
     
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    Does the telling of such stories about Santa, and Christmas, being the birthdate of Christ build in children a disrespect for truth, and does such a practice dishonor Jesus Christ, who taught that God must be worshipped with truth? John 4:23,24

    Is there any objection to sharing in celebrations that may have unchristian roots as long as it is not done for religious reasons?

    " Keep on making sure of what is acceptable to the lord; and quit sharing with them in the unfruitful works that belong to the darkeness, but rather, even be reproving them." Eph.5:10,11

    These are beliefs and practices of Jehova Witnesses. Taken from the publishers of the WatchTower and placed in a book they keep to answer questions that come up from them and others they talk to when they show up at your door. " Reasons from the Scriptures. "

    Ask for a copy next time, before you turn your back, or slam the door in the face of the only religion and religious group. I know that does not celebrate the Christmas holiday. And be nicer to them, give them a few dollars, for the literature. It isn't printed free, yet they will give it free if you ask.

    I was once a Jehova Witness, and this I learned. Coming from a family of nine children, and a house that celebrated christmas, it was hard to understand. I was a teenager seeking my own understanding of religion. Today I am of the Baptist denomination. I know the truth, and that has set my mind free.

    I will however not destroy something I once practiced, and my children now practice just to make my point. God knows the truth, and he will be the only judge! Let him strike down those who created the practice of deceiving the world.

    We pledge allegiance to flags, celebrate holidays and made up days, drink and take drugs, practice sex out of wedlock, and yes a lot of those day are made up to get money and have been commercialized. Unless you are walking upright in everyway. Be careful of your finger pointing.
     
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    ...I stopped honoring December 25th after seeing that the Bible made no mention of it, then learning of its pagan European origin.
     
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    Yup! You are correct. I read this book as child. My parents are Jehovah's Witnesses so I have access to a lot of their literature.I agree with that relegion to this day. I'm starting to go back to the Kingdom Hall.
     
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    What Christmas is to me...

    Christmas represents several things to me. Through there is much speculation as to the true meaning of Christmas, I see it as the day when the salvation of mankind came to earth. Whether this is the actual day this event occurred is irrelevant it is the day I have chosen to celebrate. Celebration comes from the heart. To me December 25th is teh official day I can say it's winter. I celebrate the beautiful of winter as well. This is also a time of family bonding. Though I try to bless others all thoughout the year I try to find some special significance in blessing strangers during the holidays. Christmas is an American tradition for me as well. Christmas is a fun time for many children as well. Christmas is a second thanksgiving to me as well. Christmas is a time of joyful giving. Christmas is more about what is in your heart than your wallet. This is why I love Christmas. Christmas is a time of year that that celebrates the best of who I am.

    Peace

    Radical Faith
     
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