Black History : Cherokee Indians: We are free to oust blacks

Chuck:

I have been a supporter of the Cherokee Freedmen Descendants cause for quite some time...

I know several of them--including the head of the Descendants of the Freedmen of the Five Civilized Nations--Marilyn Vann--who I am an ally to...

'The leap' I also alluded to is for those who advocate reparations to the black descendants of white slaveholders call for reparations, i. e., when you blur the distinction between what you're advocating-- and they aren't....

I put a link to an old thread I felt some newer posters may not have seen, where someone was suggesting black people should pay repartitons to native americans.The point I was trying to make is its ironic that a poster on Destee felt we (black people) should pay reparitions to Native Americans when (as this thread shows) some of the them (such as the Cherokees) are former slave masters.

I made no reference to those who advocate reparations to the black descendants of white slaveholders so I am still unsure about the "leap" you are talking about.

You're exibiting a lack of understanding of this nation's history, i. e., how the original inhabitants were or are being denied their connections to these lands, as welll as why our enslaved african ancestors were brought here, e. g., to be llifetime unpaid laborers forced to work on them, and whose labors made a lot of white slaveowners rich men...

Actually I am well aware of that and I am curious to know where I exhibited "a lack of understanding of this nation's history" since I have posted on it many times in the six years I have been on this site......but not in this specific thread.

Men like Thomas Jefferson and George Washington founded their white nation on that basis...

Fell free to tell me something I (and most Destee posters) dont know.

My and the point is you (among others) are basing far too much on far too little--i. e., seem to be implying and suggesting some of us exibiting empathy and sympathy for non blacks is us getting our priorities mixed up...

If, like the poster in the thread I linked, a black person believes black people should be giving native americans repartions then yes I do believe they have their priorities mixed up. However I do not see anything wrong with exhibiting empathy/sympathy for non blacks (unless they had a history of enslaving us....which most native americans didnt).
 
I put a link to an old thread I felt some newer posters may not have seen, where someone was suggesting black people should pay repartitons to native americans.The point I was trying to make is its ironic that a poster on Destee felt we (black people) should pay reparitions to Native Americans when (as this thread shows) some of the them (such as the Cherokees) are former slave masters.

I made no reference to those who advocate reparations to the black descendants of white slaveholders so I am still unsure about the "leap" you are talking about.

Chuck:

You're just choosing to not admit your motivation...

You wrote:

Actually I am well aware of that and I am curious to know where I exhibited "a lack of understanding of this nation's history" since I have posted on it many times in the six years I have been on this site......but not in this specific thread.

Chuck:

Now you can't expect every poster (and this one only vaguely familiar with you having been a poster here for awhile) to have read everything you've posted!

You wrote:

Fell free to tell me something I (and most Destee posters) dont know.

Chuck:

Do comment on the basis of what you feel or think, please don't write/speak for the rest of the posters here...

You wrote:

If, like the poster in the thread I linked, a black person believes black people should be giving native americans repartions then yes I do believe they have their priorities mixed up.

Chuck:

That is an allegation your made...

It is also merely an opinion (and I do believe it would be more respectful to allow the person you allege that about to be allowed to speak for themselves)...

You wrote:

However I do not see anything wrong with exhibiting empathy/sympathy for non blacks (unless they had a history of enslaving us....which most native americans didnt).

Chuck:

Something we do agree about...

(Smile)...

FYI...
 
@Chuck, this will be my last response to this thread as I feel our conversation has run its course, but feel free to respond to any points I make if you wish.​
I put a link to an old thread I felt some newer posters may not have seen, where someone was suggesting black people should pay repartitons to native americans.The point I was trying to make is its ironic that a poster on Destee felt we (black people) should pay reparitions to Native Americans when (as this thread shows) some of the them (such as the Cherokees) are former slave masters.

I made no reference to those who advocate reparations to the black descendants of white slaveholders so I am still unsure about the "leap" you are talking about.

You're just choosing to not admit your motivation...
One of the reasons I feel our conversation has run its course, I made a statement, you dont believe it....and theres not really anywhere else to go from there!​

Actually I am well aware of that and I am curious to know where I exhibited "a lack of understanding of this nation's history" since I have posted on it many times in the six years I have been on this site......but not in this specific thread.

Now you can't expect every poster (and this one only vaguely familiar with you having been a poster here for awhile) to have read everything you've posted!
No thats my point exactly. You havent read everything I've posted so therefore its somewhat presumptious of you to tell me that I lack "(an) of understanding of this nation's history" on the basis of one post (two lines long!!) in one thread!!

Fell free to tell me something I (and most Destee posters) dont know.

Do comment on the basis of what you feel or think, please don't write/speak for the rest of the posters here...
In most circumstances I would agree with you as its never a great idea to try and assume what others know, but lets look again at your original comment:​

..... as welll as why our enslaved african ancestors were brought here, e. g., to be llifetime unpaid laborers forced to work on them, and whose labors made a lot of white slaveowners rich men...Men like Thomas Jefferson and George Washington founded their white nation on that basis....
Is it really a stretch to say most (if not all!) Destee posters are aware that our ancestors were brought to the New World to work for free and made white slaveowners rich?​
If, like the poster in the thread I linked, a black person believes black people should be giving native americans repartions then yes I do believe they have their priorities mixed up.

That is an allegation your made...

It is also merely an opinion (and I do believe it would be more respectful to allow the person you allege that about to be allowed to speak for themselves)...
I feel the poster made it clear they believe black people should be giving native americans repartions from the way the phrased the question and comments they make in the thread, incuding their answer to my comment. I do admit that I did not reread the entire thread so if they later suggest a different opinion I may have got the wrong end of the stick. I certainly am not preventing the person from speaking for themselves, however in truth I do not know if the person still posts on Destee (it was 2007!) and even if they do, theres a good chance they didnt see this thread so I'm not sure what you mean by being more respectful to"(allow) them to speak for themselves".

However I do not see anything wrong with exhibiting empathy/sympathy for non blacks (unless they had a history of enslaving us....which most native americans didnt).
Something we do agree about...

(Smile)...

FYI...

I'm glad we agree on something. :)
 
Cherokee's were the first to assimilate and assimilate on their own, however just as there were whites who battled against slavery there were Cherokee, who would reject the contemporary mindset and had
helped kidnapped African's escape and in fact had married some.
Regardless of 25% of us from the South having some Cherokee blood, this day Misgiving day is a day of atonement for a nation that has genocided an entire race of people
 

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