Black Spirituality Religion : Chaos

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  1. DARKSIDE MAGICK

    DARKSIDE MAGICK Well-Known Member MEMBER

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    Chaos is the pandimensional plane and/or power with infinite amounts of time and space dimensions, in contrast to cosmos which only has three spatial dimensions and one linear time dimension. In comparison with the linear time of cosmos, Chaos can be described as timeless in the way that it is not contained nor limited by one-dimensional time, and formless because of its ever changing and infinite amount of space dimensions.

    Cosmos is causal, which means that it is bound by the law of cause and effect (Karma), while Chaos is totally Acausal (Akarma) and free from all the limitations of causal law.

    Chaos is the eternal and lawless becoming and is therefore an active and dynamic form of eternity. Chaos was, Chaos is and Chaos becomes All and Nothing at one and the same time.

    Chaos is therefore the only true Freedom and the Ur-essence beyond all the confining structures of the cosmic existence.

    All possibilities exist within the boundless Chaos and among them also is the possibility for the birth of cosmic existence. But the Chaos that surrounds cosmos is Anti-cosmic, because its pandimensional and formless power acts as the antithesis to the formed, limiting and causal structures of the finite order of cosmos. The Chaos that pervades the barriers of cosmic space-time is therefore experienced, from the cosmic perspective, as destructive, dissolving and consuming. This is because it dissolves the limiting structures and forms and, instead, reinstates the formless and unbound state of Acausality which is the origin and end of all.

    Chaos is that which more or less interpenetrates all that exists, from the smallest to the greatest. But within the few places where its powers are focused in the causal world, the gates to the Acausal are opened and it is through these Nexions that the emanations of Chaos can flow into cosmos.

    Chaos interpenetrates all worlds, and exists even within and beyond the absolute incomprehensible emptiness. Chaos is pandimensional and at the same time zero-dimensional. Chaos is timely and timeless. It moves within the space continuum, but is spaceless. It is the origin of all, out of which everything has been created, and at the same time that it is All, it is also Nothing.

    Chaos is its own cause and effect that in its unbound becoming, both creates and destroys. Chaos is the zeroth dimension, which is the space-timeless Ur-Essence of the Unknown God/dess and it is zeroth force that within itself bears the seed to all dimensions manifested and unmanifested.

    Chaos is unbound progression and lawless becoming, which cosmos with its stagnating forms limits. The lawlessness of Chaos transcends the causal laws of cosmos and its ordered structures and is therefore, from the Chaos-Gnostic perspective, the ultimate freedom beyond the fetters of cosmic bondage.

    Evolution is the way Chaos hastens the return of all to its own Acausal flames, while stagnation is the cosmic way of holding onto the constraining forms, laws and structures of the causal. The Black Flame/the Acausal Fire, which is the spiritual essence behind, within and beyond the causal forms of the Fireborn man and woman is our link to the ur-essence that is Chaos.

    Our 'I' (the ego) is shaped and formed by the limitations of cosmic existence, while our Self, which is the wholeness of our inner Acausal core beyond the hylic forms of our ego, is the same as the latent inner force of Chaos, that we call the Black Flame.

    The 'I' is the focal point of the Self that has bound and fixated it to the cosmos, which it has been tricked to glance at. The ego/'I' is therefore the 'conscious' or 'dayside' mind and the 'I'/eye which is blinded by the 'light' of the cosmos. The Self, on the other hand, is the Spirit and the Flame of Chaos beyond the gates of the 'unconscious' mind. The Self is therefore the dark (as in 'outside the light of the false god') and hidden essence that links us to the primeval Chaos and the Acausal.

    By looking within the abyss of the Self we can find the keys to Chaos. And through the hidden gates within the 'unconscious' mind that open to the Acausal Self (Azoth), we can increase our Self Consciousness within our lives and direct the focal point that is the 'I'/ego towards the inner Black Flame and fully open the Nexion between the blinded 'I' of the ego and the All-Seeing Eye of the Self. This would lead to the increase of the Acausal currents (Atazoth) and in the end result in the 'Opening of the Eyes of the Dragon' and the liberation of the Pandimensional Self.

    The Spirit point of the pentagram represents the Acausal Self that has been repressed and restrained by the four formed elements which symbolize the fourfold covering of the ego. By returning the four elements of the physical, astral, mental and spiritual/causal to the all-devouring Acausal fires of the Spirit/Self, the ego can become reabsorbed by and revert to the wholeness of the Self and become liberated and one with the Chaos Unbound. This return to the Acausal origin can only be initiated through pure Self Knowledge (Gnosis of the Inner Divine Flame) that must be reached through direct experience with both the inner pandimensional force (Black Flame) and the outer Acausal power (Dark Gods).

    Within the numerological context 0 is the symbol of the womb of the zeroth dimensional Chaos, while 1 stands for the contracting (coagula) and forming/ordering impulse of the cosmic creation/creator. All numbers from 1-10 stand for the different stages of causal creation and emanation, which culminate in the number 10 that stands for cosmic completion. 10 also stands for law, order, manifestation of form, restriction, the closed circle that within itself has captured the fallen Flames of Chaos, the ego/'I' and the repression of the Acausal Self.

    The Dragon is also an ancient symbol of Chaos. The pre-cosmic Chaos is within the oldest streams of Chaos-Gnosis represented by the Dragon Mother Tiamat, while the Wrathful and post-cosmic Chaos is represented by the Black Dragon (The Black Light) Hubur, which is Chaos (Tiamat) Enraged. It is this Wrathful Chaos (Black Light) that gave birth to the two (2) and the eleven (11), in order to destroy the One (1) that emanated out of the womb (0) of the Primal Chaos.

    Through the recognition and awakening of the Black Dragon of Acausal Fire (Azoth/Spirit) one can open the Destroying Eye of the Self (Eye of Lucifer/Rudra/Abbadon) and annihilate the illusions and enslaving forms of cosmic existence.
     
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    thanks so much for your wisdom....when I read this post I could think of how "Chaos" was mentioned very much in Event Horizon with Larry Fishburne but the way they presented it was in a very negative way....very clever of them wouldnt you say? Question: does this come from ATR's? I am sure our wise ancestors knew of these things but just wanted to know out of curiousity which ATR you retrieved this from.....also, I can also intertwine this with what I have read and understood of the Metu Neter and the TOLM as 0 corresponds to the Self and 10 to completion.....
     
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    I like the explanation of the Cosmos as Causal (Karmic) and Chaos as Acausal (Akarmic). I think that those of us that essentially are on the left hand path and also on the Luciferian path understand that karma NO has weight or substance on this path.

    I've heard of and read some information on the nefarious, infamous, Dark Gods, but I haven't invoke them . . . yet.

    I would want the experience would be like, for example, the invoking of some the Sumerian gods such as Tiamat or Kingu, or the Egyptian dragon, Apep or Set-Typhon.
     
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    A **** good post.

    Ase.....

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    CHAOS

    YARDLEE, I'M A CHILD OF SET AND THE WISDOM THAT THIS DIETY AND OTHERS OF THE UNDERWORLD HAVE GIVEN TO ME CANNOT EVEN BE PUT ON A THREAD.I'M ALSO ON THE ALONE PATH(LUCIFERIAN) AND IT IS NOT FOR EVERYBODY SO IT IS GOOD TO BE IN COMPANY OF SOMEONE WHO UNDERSTAND. WHEN U GET A CHANCE INVOKE LILITH AND APEP. THEY WILL GIVE YOU GREAT ANSWERS. ALSO DO YOU READ ANY OF MICHAEL FORD'S WORK OR THE ORDER OF THE NINE ANGELS?
     
  6. Yardlee

    Yardlee Well-Known Member MEMBER

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    Actually Michael W. Ford was brought to my attention by another occultist online. I've visited his website and his yahoo group a few months ago. He has some pretty interesting books. I haven't purchased any of his books or his ritual supplies. I have subscribed to his youtube channel. I like his explanation of the Luciferian path. Although I don't understand much of it at this time, he seems like a pretty powerful person.

    Seriously I think that I need to develop an ability to go into trance and to channel. I also need to learn to the read the tarot and pendulum technique so that I can commmunicate thoroughly with these archetypes and spirit entities. Importantly, I feel the need to learn Self Hypnosis so I can put myself into trance more easily and effectively.

    I think my magick will be alot more effective and I won't feel like I'm half-stepping.

    A few months ago I was working with Chapter 1 of the Voodoo Gnostic Workbook. I wasn't getting results that I've hoped for. Most ppl would blame the material instead of themselves for not getting results. But I'm not like that. I take full responsibility for my failures.

    So that basically tells me . . . . ---> Go back to the drawing board!
     
  7. DARKSIDE MAGICK

    DARKSIDE MAGICK Well-Known Member MEMBER

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    I HAVE USE THE VOUDON GNOSTIC WORKBOOK AND HAVE THE YEAR 1 THRU 4 COURSE WHICH YOU CAN GET FROM HIM. ALL I CAN SAY IS IT IS SOME POWERFUL ****. HIS WORDING CAN THROW YOU OFF AND IF U REALLY NOT INTO THE OCCULT FOR A WHILE THE TERM CAN THROW YOU OFF TOO. THE LUCKY HOODOO SECTION IS THE BEST, JUST RETRY IT AND DO THE RITUALS AT 3:00 AM IN THE MORNING THAT CAN HELP YOU . ALSO I PUT SO OF MY MAGICK INTO THE RITUALS THAT HE STATES IN THE BOOK, LIKE I DREW THE VEVE OF ESHU ON THE FLOOR AND THEN SET THE CANDLES DOWN TO DRAW MORE ENERGY.SO JUST TINKER WITH IT SOME MORE THE **** WORKS.
     
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    some thoughts

    Ase~O!
    :bowdown::bowdown::bowdown:

    In the Words of a Spirit known as "GoddessAuset333", this
    "vibes just right":SuN030::SuN030::SuN030:

    I'm working on KNOWING and practicing some of the ways of the "Ancient Kemetic Way" presented by the Ausar/Auset Society.

    DARKSIDE MAGICK
    ~CHAOS

    I AM...

    ALONE....
    MOVING ABOUT IN MY OWN PRIVATE HELL
    YET AND AT THE SAME TIME..... "THROUGH THAT MYSTICAL COMMUNICATION WITHIN
    WE KEEP ON COMING TOGETHER" (BUJU BANTON # 4)

    Chaos is the eternal and lawless becoming and is therefore an active and dynamic form of eternity. Chaos was, Chaos is and Chaos becomes All and Nothing at one and the same time.

    I AM ~ IN A STATE OF CHAOS
    AM I CHAOS.....SOMETIMES I HAVE A 'SENSE', A FORCE PULLING FROM THE CORE OF MY BE~ING THAT SAYS *THEIR IS SOMETHING DIFFERENT/ADDITIONAL ABOUT 'YOU' AND YOU KNOW IT
    IT WAS JUST REVEALED THAT
    I AM PERFECT JUST AS I AM
    I AM FULFILLING THAT WHICH WAS UNIQUE FOR ME TO DO
    I AM DIFFERENT, SPECIAL, A BRILLANT STAR IN THE UNIVERSAL ENERGY

    LISTENING TO BUJU SINGING "I WANNA RULE MY DESTINY...HELP I PLEASE"...
    MY DESTINATION:?:
    RE~ CONNECTED TO YOU AND YOU AND YOU and you and you and you and...

    A COLLECTIVE ENTITY AND ENERGY
    FOR THE PROTECTION AND CARE
    OF
    WE
    NOT
    JUST
    me


    yet, i must go and check the lunciferian concept and see how/where it fits that which i've experienced already...just 'calling it' something different. it may very well suggest the glories of a "luciferian" path or something similar like drawing or being under the "I" in I Ching. (i've heard ONE lesson in the I Ching concepts etc, however, a description of the assoications with an "I" ching suggest a path of personal material loss in the service of giving ..something to this effect)
    Anywho...Thanks for BE~ing.....here....now

    M.E.
    :hearts2:
     
  9. Yardlee

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    Thanks for your insight. In the "Big Lucky Hoodoo" chapter, I only got as far as Lesson 3 "Mind Power Development". The issue I was having was trying to find a connection to the Spirits. I think the particular lesson would have been more effective for me if Bertiaux had provided a sigil for the lucky hoodoo spirits. Because there was no sigil, I really didn't have a concept of how to communicate with these spirits.

    Also, I didn't really practice these rituals on a frequent basis. I only did them when I wanted or needed something. Do you think it helps and is more effective to practice these rituals on a daily basis?
     
  10. DARKSIDE MAGICK

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    WELL IT DEPENDS, I KNOW WHEN I DIDNT SET OUT THE ALTAR TO THEM AFTER I FIRST MADE CONTACT WITH THEM, I STARTED TO BUMP MY TOES AND ELBOW ALL OVER MY APARTMENT. IT'S LIKE THE MOVIE HELLRAISER " YOU OPEN THE BOX, WE CAME". CHAPTER ONE , YOU ONLY HAVE TO DO ONCE, CHAPTER TWO I WOULD DO ONCE A MONTH ESP. ON THE DAY OF THE NEW MOON.ALSO YOU COULD USE THE GHEDE VEVE SINCE THEY MAKE UP HALF OF THE HOO-DOO SPIRITS.
     
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