Black People : Changing our Current Definition of Racism. e.g White Supremacy

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  1. youngblackceo

    youngblackceo Well-Known Member MEMBER

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    I titled this post because I think one of the major stumbling blocks African people continue to stumble on is the fact that we continue collectively to avoid our reality as a people. This is do in great part of the fact that we have not done any real critical analysis of how we have come to define our political and social being in this world.
    Some of the posts I read points to this reality in great detail. The fact that we still have this almost childlike belief and hope that one day we are going to get are just rewards in this country points to this block.
    I will touch on a couple of subjects in this posts but the first thing I want to do is to get us to start looking at another way of defining what we call racism are white supremacy.

    I want to refer to you all a book that Amos Wilson mentioned in one of his lectures the title of the book is "Portraits of White Racism", by David T Wellman. In this book Mr. Wellman gives us a very good definition of racism e.g white supremacy.
    In it Mr. Wellman says I quote, "That racism is a culturally sanctioned, rational response to struggles over scarce resources. We can count for its widespread character and avoid the inconsistencies and meaningless distinctions that arise when it is viewed as prejudice."

    You see part of the problem I have with the civil rights movement and the continued push by our so called leaders is this movement who's primary goal is to change the attitudes of those in a dominant position over us. This type of thinking has left us in a very vunerable position.
    We talk about racism as if it's just some irrational belief of and individual who does not like another person because of the color of their skin. Our organizations base the goals they would like to acheive on this foolish assumption. That is way irregardless of how much so-called progress we have made our situation is getting worse.

    Dr. Wellman goes on to say that "Racism is a structural relationship based on the subordination of one racial group by another. Given this perspective, the determining feature of race relations is not prejudice towards blacks, but rather the superior position of whites and the institutions-ideological as well as structural-which maintain it.

    You hear that folks whites love to play this game with us always talking about producing a society that does not see race. "What a joke!" These people understand where there power comes from and they know that in order to maintain that power. They must always adapt to the demands of the subordinate population. So yeah they are not calling us dirty names to our face and we have a few good jobs and are able to live in any neighborhood. But yet we still keep having the same problems and not only that things are actually getting worse for us. But this a free,colorless society so you can't blame it on just racism right? It must be because of your class then right? According to Mr Charles Barkley that's what it is because there were some poor whites in New Orleans. You see how this talk about ending racism and colorless society does nothing but ensure the race in power that their position will not be threatened.

    Anotherthing he mentioned was the institutions help maintain their power. This is a very important fact we have to realize because our continued dependency on whites institutions will continue to ensure our subordinate position in this world. Our energy should not be wasted on this continued push to integrate into american society. If you look at some of these definitions you see that dream will never come.
    Our focus must be own changing our perception of our place in the world.

    White Supremacy should be defined as a system that was designed and maintained to provide economic, political, psychological, and social advantages for whites at the expense of Africans and people of color.
    When we move based on this reality it will keep us from fumbling and stumbling around all the other BS we get ourselves into.
    I don't care how much we differ from ideologically if you think that these definition I brought to you guys tonight are true. Then let's drop the BS and get to work.
    If you think these definition are true than you should in know way still feel comfortable about calling yourself American without even given that label a thought. If you are a christian our a muslim and think those definitions were true and you are not looking at those two institutions with some serious questions than you are just fooling yourself. All the BS we have come to associate and identify with are just mental blocks. Designed to manipulate our consciousness and to keep us from developing the mental skills that will help us solve our problems.

    This is not about whether are not we call ourselves African are American. Our whether are not the militant our radical blacks move back to Africa.
    I think sister Destee said it best white supremacy is wordwide so you are not going to escape it by running to the ends of this earth.

    This is about whether are not African men will decide to confront white men and end his ability to impose his power on us. This is our task as men brothers. Not to ask for equal parts of the pie he took from you, but to take back what is yours.
     
  2. jamesfrmphilly

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    as you start out your words of wisdom with a generalized put down of your target audience i decided it was not worth reading any further.

    if you are so smart, write a book, get a group of followers and leave me the hell alone.:deal:
     
  3. Destee

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    Brother CEO ... i loved every word of this !!! :love:

    I hope our Brothers take you up on the challenge ... and Sisters too, of course! :)

    :heart:

    Destee
     
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    Brother James ... sorry you came to such a negative conclusion so quickly, you missed a great post, and an opportunity to embrace a young Brother.

    :heart:

    Destee
     
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    Riada Well-Known Member MEMBER

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    This is a great post!
     
  6. jamesfrmphilly

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    no, i do not think it was a great post.
    there was nothing there that i did not already know.
     
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    Brother James ... you said that you stopped reading after the first few sentences?

    How did you make the determination that nothing was there, that you did not already know, if you did not read it all?

    :heart:

    Destee
     
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    Well, I read his post in its entirety, and I find myself agreeing with the Brother Elder.

    While the intent is very good, the Brother's "call to arms" of sorts, is lacking in a proper and pertinent strategem. He implores to act, but does nothing in the way of informing us on how to act.

    For example:

    How? How is any of this to be done? What are the means of accomplishing these rather daunting tasks?

    How does one confront an all but unconfrontable and nearly impregnable adversary?

    Do we take to the streets with guns and weapons? Do we try to defeat him in the realm of politics? Do we launch an assault on him in the arena of business and economics? Do we sing more songs, write more books, and participate in more marches? Do we pray about it in church?

    Not only have these things been done numerous times before, but they also have failed as many times as they've been attempted. The reason for their failure is rudimentary:

    Because we continuously attempt to "confront" our adversary on fields of battle that he creates, and thus he controls.

    Ever heard of "home-field advantage"?

    I'm rather familiar with Wellman's work. I also do not fully agree with it. He utilizes alot of reverse rhetoric in his theorem.

    For example, there is not historical evidence that racism is the result of "scarce resources". Even if this were in fact true, the only "resource" that is in jeopardy, or ever has been, is the resource of human exsistence.

    Bradley, in his book ICEMAN INHERITANCE, traces the White Man's pathology back to his innate inferiority, as expressed through his inability to commune with the elements (plenty or resources; at least before he sapped them dry) and to find eqilibrium with the world around him.

    Thus, the White man has become almost a force of "nature" (unnatural as he is), much like the Abominable Snowman. His has been a plan that has been 6,000+ years in the works.

    Again, I ask how does one stop something that has become so systematic and intrinsic?

    How far should we go to eradicate all that this Beast has created? And does that eradication of the creation, include by extension the creator as well?

    How does one differentiate between the two? The beast creates a wicked system, not because he wishes to lord over others, but rather so that he himself can thrive in a world that sees him as an abberation to all that is natural.

    To destroy the Beast, we can destroy his habitat as well. And vice versa. But the problem lies in the fact that we, in our compassion, are attempting to remove him from his dwellings, as if a being is somehow to be successfully extracted from his ecosystem in which it thrives.

    Even if we could do this, what do we do with him? Do we put him in a cage? Do we enslave him, as he has done to us and the rest of the world? Do we confine him back to the Hills of Mount Caucus, from which he was spawned?

    What do we do? And more precisely, how is it to be done?

    One of the major stumbling blocks to the liberation of the world, and our people in particular, is the pragmatic application of knowledge.

    There is a major difference between offering suggestions, and offering solutions. This soliloquy on the part of this Brother, offers much of the former, but none of the latter.

    The time for "hand-clapping speeches" has long passed, even as the few people here have cheered at this "great post".

    After the feel-good speeches are over, the people raise to their feet in thunderous applause, and the crowd eventually dissipates.........


    What then?

    PEACE
     
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    since you said it was good i read it. it was hollow.

    this post is another of a genre where the writer purports to be "helping" us and uses that strategy to put us down. telling us how we have failed to do this or that.
    i'm tired of hearing about that. if you want that, be my guess.

    the battle is a spiritual, psychic and psychological one. the enemy is the white man.
    i see no use in going around the battle field telling the wounded that it is their fault that they got shot down.

    i take a positive approach in putting out the information that we can use to reconnect to our spiritual foundation.
    once we stand on a firm spiritual base the white man becomes irrelevant.
     
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    Brothers James and SAMURAI ... interesting conclusions. Thanks for sharing.

    :heart:

    Destee
     
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