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  1. Lokman

    Lokman Well-Known Member MEMBER

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    By Lokman

    Try neither. Here's why.

    A) The Oligarchy established a financial thesis called:Capitalism.
    B) The Oligarchy established a financial anti-thesis called:Communism.
    C) The Oligarchy merged Capitalism & Communism into a financial
    synthesis called: Debt Capitalism (a Political-Economy).

    Debt Capitalism: America's Economic System Of Choice

    1. A Political-Economy is a perverse hybrid of relative freedom,
    a welfare state, regulatory despotism, and moral chaos. Moreover,
    a political-economy produces one monetary machination and policy
    failure after another, but is buttressed by the illusion that more
    government control will produce a more righteous result.

    2. A political-economy encourages you to borrow from the
    future, by mortgaging your past (equity and savings stored)
    to consume in the present (D=P [1+ R] n).

    Hence for immediate gratification, and no regard for the long-term
    pain of spine-cracking compound interest payments to come: You
    pledge your future energy, assets and productivity to a syndicate of
    Corporate Cartels. After which, virtually any wealth you produce is
    summarily transferred into the coffers of your new masters.

    3. For your part, you get: Debtor's Prison.Once there, you are a slave
    to a financial system owned and controlled by an interlocking network
    of economic cabals.

    In short, a political-economy is an economic formula for social strife,
    financial chaos, and slavery. So,

    Capitalism: Heaven or Hell? No. Try a putrid 3rd of a Hegelian Dialectic
    and Conflict-Thesis, by Design.
    - ( The House Of Lokman)


    In Heavy Trading, On Wall Street

    Lokman

    P.S. Be of good cheer family, because our best is yet to come.


    "No two beliefs, doctrines, or statements that completely contradict one another can be true at the same time in the same sense. Each can be wrong, but each cannot be right. You see, by its very nature, ' Truth is Exclusive.' Otherwise, truth is all-inclusive and therefore nothing is false. Moreover, if nothing is false, can one say in truth that everything is false? And if everything is false, then what is the meaning of truth?" --(The House Of Lokman)
     
  2. mrron

    mrron Well-Known Member MEMBER

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    Lokman, you explain that very well. But I can't agree that it is neither heaven or hell. It is heaven for those who are financially independent and don't have to borrow money. However for those who do, it can be hell if one doesn't understand the consequences of compound interest, as you stated. It amounts to a lifetime of debt for most, with the banks running off with all the loot. It still beats pure communism by far, because of the incentive to make money for yourself, even those though that might be an illusion.

    Distribution of the wealth is also a major problem with capitalism. The rich can actually keep most of the money, which they often do. that creates the cycle of poverty we see so often. I prefer the term socialism to communism. Communiism is mostly total control by the government, which is not freely elected.
     
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    mrron i totally agree with your statement well made what you saying
    i fine to be true facts and realism .
     
  4. Lokman

    Lokman Well-Known Member MEMBER

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    mrron: "Lokman, you explain that very well."

    Appreciate the kind words and your timely input. That said,
    Let me take a moment to outline several alternative perspectives
    upon which the readers here can reason and reflect. Here we go...

    mrron: "But I can't agree that it is neither heaven or hell."

    Then stay with me for a minute, because we're just warming up...
    (smile)

    mrron: "It is heaven for those who are financially independent
    and don't have to borrow money."

    Financial success requires a portfolio of ancillary skills and the
    acute application of one's knowledge and know-how to Equitable
    Free-Enterprise. After all, what is knowledge and know-how but an
    extension of the individual? And what is financial independence
    but an extension of our knowledge and know-how?

    Financial success, then, is antecedent and independent of any thesis
    (capitalism), anti-thesis (communism), or synthesis (debt-capitalism).
    In fact, one can reason that one's financial success happens in spite
    of capitalism, not because of it.

    mrron: "However for those who do, it can be hell if one doesn't understand
    the consequences of compound interest, as you stated. It amounts to
    a lifetime of debt for most, with the banks running off with all the loot."

    Extremely salient points mrron. To which let me add: The financial cabals
    in this country have exacerbated the problem immeasurably through a perverse
    hybrid of complex and unimaginable schemes. (It is well within my purview to
    elucidate upon this as needed.)

    mrron: "It still beats pure communism by far..."

    And yet Communism was underwritten by America, financed by
    America, and made in America. And vestiges of this doctrine are
    are now alive and well in the vaginal and soul of America's
    political-economy.

    mrron: "Distribution of the wealth is also a major problem with capitalism."

    Capitalism is only a thesis. The problem lies with The Cartels. By definition,
    a Cartel is a group of independent businesses that join together to coordinate
    the production, pricing, and marketing of its members. The aim of any Cartel is
    to murder the competition and Jack-Pump its profits. This is achieved via a
    shared monopoly over their industry; which, in turn, forces the public to pay
    considerably higher prices for the Cartel's goods or services than we would HAVE
    TO PAY under real equitable free-enterprise and tactical decentralization.

    mrron: "The rich can actually keep most of the money, which they often
    do. that creates the cycle of poverty we see so often."

    Regarding cycles. Monetary scientists through the monetization of debt and
    amputation of the money supply - and via their privately owned syndicate of
    banking cartels can create economic Booms and Busts - Recessions and
    Depressions - Prosperity and Poverty Cycles whenever they want, and
    wherever they choose.

    mrron: "I prefer the term socialism to communism."

    "The difference between socialism and communism is the difference between
    molestation and rape." - (The House Of Lokman)


    mron: "Communiism is mostly total control by the government,
    which is not freely elected."

    Communism is legislative despotism and force masquerading as the will
    of the people in a political-economy. Furthermore, in this country there
    is one party with two divisions. As such, a cursory glance at any major
    election and you can plainly see that we get the candidates of their choice,
    not ours.


    The Floor Is Now Wide Open,
    In Heavy Trading, On Wall St.

    Lokman

    "No two beliefs, doctrines, or statements that completely contradict one another can be true at the same time in the same sense. Each can be wrong, but each cannot be right. You see, by its very nature, ' Truth is Exclusive.' Otherwise, truth is all-inclusive and therefore nothing is false. Moreover, if nothing is false, can one say in truth that everything is false? And if everything is false, then what is the meaning of truth?" --(The House Of Lokman)
     
  5. dustyelbow

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    I subscribe to this QUOTE myself.

    Perhaps I might be MISUNDERSTANDING you but I believe this QUOTE you laid have to be NAILED DOWN in our COMMUNITY. If we can UNDERSTAND that we can start seeing this WORLD in NEW TERMS.

    Overall what you are saying is becoming MORE and MORE REVEALED. Even a BLIND MAN can SEE this. It use to be CLOSED DOOR UNDERGROUND PLOT but now we can SEE it MANIFEST in our EVERYDAY MATTERS. Even in the DINING and LIVING ROOMS our our PLACES in the NATION. I think CHILDREN in the NATION can SEE IT but we ADULTS have become DESENSITIZED to IT.
     
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    Hell, you just don't know it yet...

    Capitalism is like being in Hell with an air conditioner. The air conditioner is power by you running on a wheel to generate electricity. Those who are wealthy get others to run on the wheel for them while they enjoy the cool air. Those who are rich simply can spin the wheel hard enough so that they don't have to work so hard (for a while). The middle class and poor are always running indefinitely.
     
  7. Lokman

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    "Financial success requires a portfolio of ancillary skills and the
    acute application of one's knowledge and know-how to Equitable
    Free-Enterprise. After all, what is knowledge and know-how but an
    extension of the individual? And what is financial independence
    but an extension of our knowledge and know-how?

    Financial success, then, is antecedent and independent of any thesis
    (capitalism), anti-thesis (communism), or synthesis (debt-capitalism).
    In fact, one can reason that one's financial success happens in spite
    of capitalism, not because of it
    ."
    - (The House Of Lokman)

    DustyElbow:"Perhaps I might be MISUNDERSTANDING
    you but I believe this QUOTE you laid have to be NAILED
    DOWN in our COMMUNITY. If we can UNDERSTAND
    that we can start seeing this WORLD in NEW TERMS."

    You understand me well enough, and you read between the
    lines extremely well.

    DustyElbow:"Overall what you are saying is becoming MORE
    and MORE REVEALED. Even a BLIND MAN can SEE this.
    It use to be CLOSED DOOR UNDERGROUND PLOT but now
    we can SEE it MANIFEST in our EVERYDAY MATTERS. Even
    in the DINING and LIVING ROOMS our our PLACES in the
    NATION. I think CHILDREN in the NATION can SEE IT but
    we ADULTS have become DESENSITIZED to IT."

    You are exactly right. That said, the lines of demarcation have
    been drawn in the sand. Our people must find time for a real
    substantive financial briefing and then prep for nothing short
    of: A New Economic War.



    ShemsiEnTehuti:"Capitalism is like being in Hell with an
    air conditioner."

    Again, Capitalism is a thesis. We are inside the filthy bowel
    of a political-economy, and Capitalism is one (putrid) 3rd of
    a Conflict-Thesis. Note: Examples of how "Debt Capitalism"
    works are available upon request.

    By the way, let me suggest that we get the patent rights to those
    air conditioners.


    ShemsiEnTehuti: "The air conditioner is power by you running
    on a wheel to generate electricity. Those who are wealthy get
    others to run on the wheel for them while they enjoy the cool air.
    The middle class and poor are always running indefinitely."

    "There is no doubt that man can exist and satisfy his desires
    by commandeering and consuming the designs and productivity
    of his fellow man. These acts, are the genesis, of plunder. Moreover,
    given the fact that man is inclined to avoid labor and pain - and
    since labor and pain are polars of the same coin - one may reason
    that mankind will choose plunder whenever he finds plunder to be
    easier than labor and pain. However, when plunder becomes a way
    of life for a class of men, they inevitably create for their class a
    legal system that authorizes it, and a moral code that notarizes it
    ."
    - (The House Of Lokman)

    Flying High In The Friendly Sky
    Lokman

    "No two beliefs, doctrines, or statements that completely contradict one another can be true at the same time in the same sense. Each can be wrong, but each cannot be right. You see, by its very nature, ' Truth is Exclusive.' Otherwise, truth is all-inclusive and therefore nothing is false. Moreover, if nothing is false, can one say in truth that everything is false? And if everything is false, then what is the meaning of truth?" --(The House Of Lokman)
     
  8. dustyelbow

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    Lokman: You understand me well enough, and you read between the
    lines extremely well.


    Yeah I got you. I wonder if anybody else did before me so I left it to CHANCE.


    Lokman: You are exactly right. That said, the lines of demarcation have
    been drawn in the sand. Our people must find time for a real
    substantive financial briefing and then prep for nothing short
    of: A New Economic War.


    I am again at one of those MISUNDERSTANDING POINTS.

    I think as SOON as PRESIDENT BUSH leaves the WHITE HOUSE from the WHITE HOUSE will UNLEASH a GREAT TERROR on the NATION. Nothing SHORT of NATION TURMOIL. It will AFFECT our COMMUNITIES the MOST. There is NOBODY HARDLY talking about to PREPARE for IT.

    If any PRESIDENTIAL HOPEFUL running is going to BRING ALL the TROOPS back HOME we are in a GREAT DEAL of TROUBLE.

    Why I say...

    I have RELATIVES who SERVED the MILITARY who came BACK MESSED UP.

    Everything about them is EXTREME HARDSHIP.

    It's very hard to get them the SERVICE they NEED without being REBORN into BONDAGE.

    President BUSH and CONGRESS have set UP cutting VETERAN AFFAIRS HOSPITALS and MILITARY BASE CLOSURES.

    In recent news, Mostly SINGLE MEN are CONSIDERED HOMELESS and 1 out of 5 I think is a VETERAN.

    BUSH has called 10,000's of MORE SOLDIERS to IRAQ.

    These SOLDIERS will come BACK to NOTHING SUPPORTING. They will be very TAXING to our COMMUNITY. We already got PROBLEMS. DEEP ONES.

    Sooner or LATER they will soon be on DRUGS for the PAIN or to FORGET it.

    The POLICE and JUSTICE DEPT will have them REVOLVING OUT the LEGAL SYSTEM just like BROKEN DOWN VIETNAM VETS who still WALK the STREETS even with SO MANY DRUG OFFENSES.

    EXPERTS will KEEP BOUNCING the PROBLEM for EVER so LONG like the VIETANM VETS.

    It will be like the CRACK EPIDEMIC of the late 70's 80's early 90's.

    Our COMMUNITIES especially POORLY SERVED ONES will be CRUSHED.

    FIND out about the HISTORY of returning VIETNAM VETS and OUR COMMUNITY.

    We are still DEALING with THAT.

    Everything will be VERY TAXING. I feel very SAD for the YOUNG SOLDIERS because in all their FAMILY already WEAK will be the FIRST to ABANDON them.

    This will AFFECT CERTAINLY AFFECT the image of OUR YOUNG BLACK MEN. Already feeling at a NATION LEVEL LOW with GREATER SOCIETY. As you can SEE SOCIETY is BLAMING their LIFESTYLES for their BEHAVIOR and LACK which if you look how the MEDIA is TARGETTING US with it, IT'S LIKE PREPARATION to claim the FRUITS of BAD POLICY done by BUSH and CONGRESS.

    Our young BLACK MALES dont REALIZE embracing MEDIA IMAGES is a STEP for them to BARE the BLAME for FAULT made by POLITICIANS and SUCH.

    It will be the STRAW that BREAKS the CAMEL BACK.
     
  9. Lokman

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    Lokman: ... the lines of demarcation have been drawn in
    the sand. Our people must find time for a real substantive
    financial briefing and then prep for nothing short of: A New
    Economic War.


    DustyElbow: "I am again at one of those MISUNDERSTANDING POINTS."

    A few years ago, there was a conference held entitled
    "Architects Of The New Millenium." It was attended by
    the richest bankers, financiers, and monetary scientists
    on the planet.

    With the above in mind, and in lieu of your comments, Dusty,
    here are several striking conclusions drawn by the Real Powers
    Behind the Throne...

    "America is slouching towards relative if not absolute decline.
    And the American people will be like boat people looking for work
    in emerging nations."

    "The use of America's southern backyard in Central and Latin America,
    is America's Greatest Asset. However, for the rejuvenation of America
    to work, it must become a Spanish speaking nation."

    "The wealthy will be confronted by masses of nomads - i.e., boat people
    on a planetary scale, seeking to escape from the planetary periphery
    where most of the earth's population will continue to live."


    Now, in light of the above, and when you take into account our plight throughout the world - consider this:

    "With the onset on automation, the Negro moves out of his historical
    state of oppression into one of uselessness. Increasingly, he is not so
    much economically exploited, as he is irrelevant... the dominant whites
    no longer need to exploit the black minority. As automation proceeds, it
    will be easier for the former to disregard the latter
    ." -(Sidney Wilhelm, Who Needs The Negro.)

    Peace&Benefits

    Lokman

    P.S. "Economic Storm Clouds May Be Just Over The Horizon Yet Katrina is Shopping For Summer Wear" - (The House Of Lokman)
     
  10. dustyelbow

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    Land first then TECHNOLOGY.

    Technology (without GUNS) had displaced US (black people, and OTHERS) in AMERICA in terms of CHEAP LABOR. However before that HAPPENED POSSESSING LAND with GLOBAL CERTIFIED TITLE (MIGHT) and its RICHES have DISPLACED US in terms of the BROAD WORLD. COLONIES were ESTABLISHED as GLOBAL LAND TITLES with MIGHT such as Rhodesia (SOUTHERN AFRICA) named after CECIL RHODES.

    That means if we are not FIGHTING THIS then we are being SHUFFLED AROUND, BUYING TIME finding PEACE in a FIGHT that has ALREADY been WON by these GLOBALIST and us being the LOSERS we try to ASSERT our RIGHTS.

    Most if not all UNDERSTAND these TERMS CURRENTLY.

    In order for US to have PEACE in the NATION with these TERMS, we will have to become SUPER CITIZENS by DESIGN.

    We cannot be AVERAGE NATION DAY DREAMERS.

    That is where a INDIVIDUAL from the COMMUNITY can WIN (BUY TIME) but for the GREAT MANY of US we will be PERISHING (LOSE ie STAMPED with BAD CREDIT, lack of FRESH FOODS, living near CHEMICAL HAZARDS, lack of LIFE PREPARATION such as SCHOOLING STABLE HOME STRUCTURE etc) trying to PURSUE SUCH.

    But these GLOBALIST knows that the SUPER among US will PERISH TOO because they are JUST a GENERATION or TWO out of POVERTY from the MASSES. Their NEXT GENERATION will SLIDE BACK into the MASSES that are PERISHING.

    That's the GAME I see myself INVOLVED IN. As you can see there is NO TIME for ENTERTAINMENT.

    I prepare myself everyday and I do see where this GLOBALIST will FAIL but if they FAIL they will TAKE the MAJORITY of those NOMADS with them.

    AMERICA can TRANSFORM INTO ANYTHING it WANTS (SPANISH SPEAKING PORTUGUESE, FRENCH SPEAKING), I am not going to WORRY TOO MUCH over it. After all its a PLOT.

    A MAJORITY of US in the NATION should already be ALERTED to this NOMAD STATUS already since we have the DOERS in the COMMUNITY ESCAPING POVERTY in its MIDST. That ESCAPISM to NIRVANA MIND SET that RUTHLESS WHITE knows so WELL.

    That is why I consider it PRIME BUSINESS to STUDY our COMMUNITY.

    Then you can UNDERSTAND a great deal about the WORLD.

    SO these GLOBALIST are calling themselves

    "Architects Of The New Millenium."

    WOW....

    Thanks
     
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