OK guys, no negative energy allowed. IMO, the fact that our destinies are inextricably bound indicates that what hurts us, will in turn hurt you. Obviously, we will hurt first and worst, but ultimately, it will get to you. As an example, the out of wedlock child birth rate in the 1960's for Blacks was around 30% and for Whites it was less than 10% today, Whites have arrived where we were back then and moving towards were we are today. Us being unable to earn an honest wage will effect you either through social welfare or through crime rates or health care cost. So, IMO, every American who cares about our mutual destiny should be concerned about the health and welfare of EVERY American. Therefore, an open talk/discussion that doesn't involve partisan politics or other ideologies that only look at things from a single perspective. Anyone who shares your destiny yet only looks out for their own well being is not a very good destiny partner as he doesn't realize when he's shooting himself in the foot. One of the first issues that would need to be addressed in a truly open discussion is racial trust. Black people have plenty of reasons to distrust White people. A quick read through stormfront will quickly demonstrate that there are White people out there who actually think that WE should be THANKFUL for slavery and that WE owe the WHITE race a debt of gratitude. So with that in mind we have to understand that trust is a barrier to a mutually beneficial society because as it stands, everyone is just looking out for themselves.