Destee and I had a short conversation in another thread and it was suggested as new thread material The background Basically I flat out said I had more integrity then most of her members. She of course called me out on that. I mentioned that I refereed a basketball game...against my own kids when a referee didn't show up for the game. My best player fouled out, and that, combined with a disportionate amount of free throws for the other team was the difference in the game. Now she was correct to call me out on that post alone. I was walking out the door and was just trying to get a thought done. I have since added my more complete thoughts on this..but again...new thread here. First question I asked the question if the members here were to ref a game between black kids and white kids...could/would you guys call the game evenly. Second question If destee.com members were in a position of hiring...would race become a bigger qualification then what the worker can bring to the table(would the best person always get the job) I know where I am at on these questions...the best team will win...the best person will be hired...period..end of story. And my position of higher integrity still stands over the majority of members here. Now to explain why my thoughts are what they are. There is a "us against them" undertone(sometimes an overtone) here...why? well its a pro African American website. I wouldn't expect any less if I was asking the same questions at a "pro white" website. I expanded further when I attempted to make this thread via mobile..but really I just don't think its rocket science. Destee and I also touched bases on politics.. I mentioned that in 08 Obama got 96% of the black vote. She countered by asking what percentage did former white presidents garner of the white vote...Not to sure what to do with that since they had no other race to vote for.....perhaps that was the point. Here is what I do know. In 08 Obama got 43% of the white vote..That is accually the highest amount of support a Democrat has gotten from white America since 1976. There is absolutely zero support that would show that Obama lost any votes by whites because of his color. I could post stats...but no need to clutter. Here is the link. http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1108/15297.html Exit polls: How Obama won Barack Obama won a significant share of white voters' support. See also: Economy the top issue politico.com Here is the link.