Black People : Can black people be racist?

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  1. Kenny Jones

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    There has been a number of black people in the media such as Mark Lamont Hill, Michael Eric Dyson, and others who have claimed Black people cannot be racist. They usually explain this by redefining the term “racist” to mean something it does not, and then making claims about black people which are far from true. I was wondering if anyone here agrees with this claim and would be willing to discuss.

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    rac·ist
    racialist · xenophobe · chauvinist ·
    supremacist · (racially) discriminatory · racialist · prejudiced · bigoted
    ADJECTIVE
    1. showing or feeling discrimination or prejudice against people of other races, or believing that a particular race is superior to another:
      "we are investigating complaints about racist abuse at the club
    Based on today's definition of a racist, of course black people can be racist...but that definition has changed over time. Many people believe a racist is someone who, because of their belief, negatively affect the lives of others...because of the color of their skin. In the past, that didn't apply to black people; we had no power base--in this country--and therefore no means to affect the lives of other races of people. But even that has changed. There are some among us, who have garnered money, position, power enough to affect the lives of others. That's not to say that they're racist...only that they have the means to affect lives. If you listen to the way some of us talk about other races, it's obvious that we're not fond of them. Whether our feelings are justified, through past bad behaviors of members of that/those race(s), doesn't make it right--to hate a whole race of people because of the actions of some, isn't right. With that said, I would say that, yes, we can be racist...based on today's definition.
     
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    Fair enough; but I was kinda looking for someone who believes they cannot be racist.

    I wasn’t talking about history, I was talking about today.

    If the ability to affect lives is a requirement for racism, the Ku Klux Klan is no longer a racist organization because they no longer as an organization have the power to affect lives anymore; do you agree?

    How about base on definitions of the past? Do you agree black people of today can be racist using previous definitions?

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    [QUOTE="Kenny Jones, post: 971402, member: 56965" There has been a number of black people in the media such as Mark Lamont Hill, Michael Eric Dyson, and others who have claimed Black people cannot be racist.

    They usually explain this by redefining the term “racist” to mean something it does not, and then making claims about black people which are far from true. I was wondering if anyone here agrees with this claim and would be willing to discuss.

    Ken /QUOTE]
    How could anyone who is even marginally rational describe the behaviour of non-whites generally, people of African ethnicity specifically as being RAC IST in the context of the ongoing so very very despicably cowardly WAR which has never ever been declared as opposed to constantly waged on non-whites generally, peoples of Africa/and of African ethnicity for over 5000 years; as most spectacularly highlighted by the ongoing African HOLOCAUST of over 500 years duration now [what do you KNOW about the Olmec Heads Kenny Jones]?

    Isn’t ANYONE who genuinely believes they are not programmed
    graphically illustrating that their programming is COMPLETE?
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    [QUOTE="baller, post: 971418, member: 13" Rac·ist
    racialist · xenophobe · chauvinist ·
    supremacist · (racially) discriminatory · racialist · prejudiced · bigoted
    ADJECTIVE
    1. showing or feeling discrimination or prejudice against people of other races, or believing that a particular race is superior to another:
      "we are investigating complaints about racist abuse at the club
    Based on today's definition of a racist, of course black people can be racist...but that definition has changed over time.

    Many people believe a racist is someone who, because of their belief, negatively affect the lives of others...because of the color of their skin. In the past, that didn't apply to black people; we had no power base--in this country--and therefore no means to affect the lives of other races of people. But even that has changed.

    There are some among us, who have garnered money, position, power enough to affect the lives of others. That's not to say that they're racist...only that they have the means to affect lives.

    If you listen to the way some of us talk about other races, it's obvious that we're not fond of them. Whether our feelings are justified, through past bad behaviors of members of that/those race(s), doesn't make it right--to hate a whole race of people because of the actions of some, isn't right.

    With that said, I would say that, yes, we can be racist...based on today's definition. /QUOTE]

    Doesn’t the utility of the suffix IST as exemplified by Physicist, Chemist, Biologist and various Scientists etc as standard highlight the most proficient doctors and assorted experienced and academically qualified professionals, whereas doesn’t your assertion with regard to non-whites generally, the African collective specifically being RACIST fall over, totally collapse due to the so easily verifiable facts with regard to the ongoing African HOLOCAUST, as Slavery and Colonialism didn’t so much end did they, as morph into European domination of every area of human activity in the 21st century, which is all STILL being instigated and orchestrated by alleged “Christian” Europeans isn’t it, Kenny Jones?

    Isn’t ANYONE who genuinely believes they are not programmed
    graphically illustrating that their programming is COMPLETE?
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    [QUOTE="Kenny Jones, post: 971402, member: 56965" There has been a number of black people in the media such as Mark Lamont Hill, Michael Eric Dyson, and others who have claimed Black people cannot be racist.

    They usually explain this by redefining the term “racist” to mean something it does not, and then making claims about black people which are far from true.

    I was wondering if anyone here agrees with this claim and would be willing to discuss.

    Ken /QUOTE]

    If I/WE are RAC IST Kenny Jones, haven’t we also been very very consistently useless as opposed to arch at deploying the racist xenophobia necessary to adequately secure our communities, countries [as is standard in Europe and Asia]/the whole African continent [easily the richest continent with regard to natural resources on the planet having the poorest countries in the 21st century] from initially Semites [who have completely overrun North/North East Africa over the last 3000 years] with Europeans subsequently applying the coup de grace to both our freedom/sovereignty over the last 500 years?

    Isn’t ANYONE who genuinely believes they are not programmed
    graphically illustrating that their programming is COMPLETE?
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    This is accomplished by looking at the behavior, and beliefs of individual people of African ethnicity, understanding the definition of “racism” then determining if said behavior can be judged as racist.

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    No; the suffix “IST” does not cause the claim of racism applied to black people to fall short due to the mistreatment committed against us in the past, and whatever mistreatment may be still going on today.

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    The question at hand is not referring to black people as a group, but black people on an individual basis.

    Ken
     
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    [QUOTE="Kenny Jones, post: 971402, member: 56965" There has been a number of black people in the media such as Mark Lamont Hill, Michael Eric Dyson, and others who have claimed Black people cannot be racist.

    They usually explain this by redefining the term “racist” to mean something it does not, and then making claims about black people which are far from true. I was wondering if anyone here agrees with this claim and would be willing to discuss.

    Ken /QUOTE]
    How could anyone who is even marginally rational describe the behaviour of non-whites generally, people of African ethnicity specifically as being RAC IST in the context of the ongoing so very very despicably cowardly WAR which has never ever been declared as opposed to constantly waged on non-whites generally, peoples of Africa/and of African ethnicity for over 5000 years; as most spectacularly highlighted by the ongoing African HOLOCAUST of over 500 years duration now [what do you KNOW about the Olmec Heads Kenny Jones]?

    [QUOTE="Kenny Jones, post: 971501, member: 56965" This is accomplished by looking at the behavior, and beliefs of individual people of African ethnicity, understanding the definition of “racism” then determining if said behavior can be judged as racist.

    Ken /QUOTE] Judged by who, Kenny Jones, especially within the status quo that STILL allows the police to murder Black people without ever being charged with a crime as opposed to being charged and jailed?

    Isn’t ANYONE who genuinely believes they are not programmed
    graphically illustrating that their programming is COMPLETE?
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