Brother's Only Chat : Brother's Chat Tonight - 02/13/07

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  1. Destee

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    Peace and Blessings Family,

    Brother $$RICH$$ has not been feeling well lately, and i don't know if he will be able to make tonight's chat ... so i'm starting this thread for yall ... in his 'stead ... and encouraging you all to still come together.

    Brother's Chat Tonight @ 8 pm ET ... www.destee.com/chat

    Hoping your interaction tonight is all that you hope it to be!

    Much Love and Peace.

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    Thankz u sista Destee........Please Brothers do continue
     
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    [mts1] 8:36 pm: On many occasions the bond does not take
    [Lazarus] 8:37 pm: we cannot imitated the European!
    [Lazarus] 8:37 pm: I shake my head when we imitate the rituals of the Greek
    fraternaties
    [mts1] 8:38 pm: i know it sounds wrong, but it is actually the child that
    initiates teh bond
    [mts1] 8:38 pm: I actually did the study on it
    [mts1] 8:39 pm: The child may not necessarily respond to the mother
    [Lazarus] 8:39 pm: (rape)... I was referring to was a male European bonding
    exercise.
    [mts1] 8:39 pm: I see I am gonna have to back that up with evidence
    [mts1] 8:40 pm: lol
    [$$RICH$$] 8:40 pm: lol
    [Lazarus] 8:40 pm: mts, I never looked at it that way. very interesting
    [mts1] 8:40 pm: Oh really?
    [mts1] 8:40 pm: How so?
    [Lazarus] 8:41 pm: I trust my son.. (who's eight years old)
    [Lazarus] 8:41 pm: I trust that he'll apply the lessons that I've taught him.
    [mts1] 8:42 pm: but those are not trust values
    [The Lounge]: kemetkind has left at 8:42 pm
    [The Lounge]: kemetkind has entered at 8:42 pm
    [Lazarus] 8:42 pm: LOL...
    [$$RICH$$] 8:42 pm: wb kemetkind
    [kemetkind] 8:42 pm: ty - i wasn't gone I could still hear
    [Lazarus] 8:43 pm: I know... LOL... basic stuff.... home-training
    [Lazarus] 8:43 pm: kwk
    [Lazarus] 8:43 pm: wb kemetkind... Medase for being here.
    [mts1] 8:44 pm: The reason the child initiates the bond, is becuz the child is
    immediately ready to bond to recieve the bond, and often the parent is not
    [kemetkind] 8:44 pm: yw bro (until i learn the twi response)
    [Lazarus] 8:44 pm: right... that's what I mean... I know that he'll make some
    mistakes.
    [Lazarus] 8:46 pm: So what do I need... to TRUST YOU.
    [Lazarus] 8:46 pm: or my Brothers...
    [Lazarus] 8:49 pm: I mean, what characteristics, traits, abilities, or skills I must
    develop. - not acts, deeds or words from you.
    [Lazarus] 8:50 pm: because you can honor ALL your commitments... but I can
    still harbor a distrust.
    [kemetkind] 8:54 pm: ty brother oldsoul
    [Lazarus] 8:55 pm: medase for your kind words
    [Lazarus] 8:59 pm: 1
    [oldsoul] 8:59 pm: 1
    [$$RICH$$] 8:59 pm: 1
    [Lazarus] 8:59 pm: the term "the dozens" has origins in the slave markets
    [$$RICH$$] 9:01 pm: true
    [Lazarus] 9:01 pm: right....
    [$$RICH$$] 9:02 pm: little commitments to build trust
    [mts1] 9:03 pm: LOL
    [mts1] 9:03 pm: HEY WHY IS IT THAT WE HAVE TO GO WITH THE IDEA
    THAT EVERYTHING THAT IS "EUROPEAN" IS GOING TO BE BAD FOR US?
    [mts1] 9:03 pm: CONTROVERSIAL POINT BEING MADE HERE
    [Lazarus] 9:04 pm: I trust that those that are close to me will check me if I do or
    say something that betrays my ancestors.
    [kemetkind] 9:04 pm: aw lawd - mts1 is about to jack the trust up now
    [mts1] 9:04 pm: WHAT DOES AFRICAN ORIGIN HAVE TO DO WITH HOW
    WE CHOOSE TO COMMUNICATE
    [Lazarus] 9:05 pm: mts, because Afrikanity and European are opposite side of
    the spectrum.
    [Lazarus] 9:05 pm: European Peace = Afrikan Insanity
    [mts1] 9:05 pm: IN ORDER FOR YOU TO ANSWER THIS YOU HAVE TO
    EXPLAIN TO ME THAT THERE IS SOMETHING IN OUR BIOLOGY OR DNA,
    THAT MAKES US HAVE TO COMMUNICATE IN CERTAIN WAYS
    [Lazarus] 9:05 pm: LOL @ kemet
    [mts1] 9:06 pm: WHAT DOES YOUR OR MY AFRIKANITY HAVE TO DO
    WITH HOW WE COMMUNICATE OR HOW WE BUILD TRUST
    [mts1] 9:06 pm: MY POINT HERE NOT ONLY FROM A EUROPEAN
    PERSPECTIVE BUT BASED ON HOW PAST CULTURES HAVE HAD TO BUILD
    COMMUNITY AND RELATIONSHIPS WITHIN AND NONE IF IT IS BASED ON
    RACE
    [mts1] 9:06 pm: THESE ISSUES ARE NOT RACE BASED
    [Lazarus] 9:07 pm: I believe it is essential.
    [kemetkind] 9:07 pm: i think you need to flip that question mts1 - what about our
    communication or trust is not based on our Afrikan origins?
    [kemetkind] 9:08 pm: maybe not race-based but definitely ethnicity based...imo
    [$$RICH$$] 9:09 pm: i agree kemet on your comment !
    [mts1] 9:10 pm: I JUST THINK THAT WE ARE GONNA MAKE A BIG HUGE
    MISTAKE BY DENYING WHAT WE CAN LEARN FROM ALL CULTURES
    [kemetkind] 9:10 pm: <--reaches out and dapz $$rich$$
    [Lazarus] 9:11 pm: there's nothing wrong with having an Afrikan-centered
    approach to ANY task, objective, or goal.
    [mts1] 9:11 pm: I THINK THAT IF YOU LOOK AROUND THAT MUCH OF
    WHAT WE ARE TRYING TO DO, IS THIS THINKING THAT WE HAVE TO DO IT
    THE "AFRIKAN" WAY, AND THEIR IS NOTHING THAT IS PURELY EUROPEAN
    AND/OR AFRICAN ON MANY OF THESE BASIC ISSUES THAT WE SPEAK OF
    [mts1] 9:12 pm: WELL LAZURUS YOU HAVE TO EXPLAIN TO ME WHAT
    SPECIFICALLY YOU THINK IS "AFRIKAN CENTERED
    [The Lounge]: Music Producer has entered at 9:12 pm
    [kemetkind] 9:12 pm: mts1 are you saying biologically europeans and afrikans
    are essentially the same?
    [mts1] 9:12 pm: AND LASTLY IF WE WANT THINGS TO BE AFRIKAN
    CENTERED THEN WHY NOT LETS GET A BIG BOAT AND MOVE OUR
    PEOPLE TO AFRICA
    [Lazarus] 9:12 pm: we have to think/work our way through this reality without
    losing sight of who we are.
    [$$RICH$$] 9:12 pm: wb Music producer
    [kemetkind] 9:12 pm: brother Music Producer - weclome Medasa Pa for being
    here bro
    [$$RICH$$] 9:13 pm: medase Pa brother
    [mts1] 9:13 pm: THE BIOLOGICS IS THERE KEMET AND ESSENTIALLY THE
    SAME, THE CIRCUMSTNCE BY WHICH WE CHOOSE TO BUILD CULTURE IS
    GOING TO BE DIFFERENT
    [Music Producer] 9:13 pm: hi all, maaaan I am wore out, just come back from
    jagging / walking.
    [Lazarus] 9:13 pm: Oldsoul... we are recovering Europeans
    [kemetkind] 9:14 pm: [email protected]
    [mts1] 9:14 pm: HOW WE CHOOSE TO BUILD RELATIOHHIPS IS NOT RACE
    BASED...IS WHAT I AM SAYINGG...I CAN HONESTLY SAY THAT WE CAN TAKE
    ALOT FROM THE WAY ASIAN, AND EUROPEANS BUILD CRITICAL
    RELATIONSHIPS
    [Lazarus] 9:15 pm: mts, I would love to have that discussion with you... if I
    TRUST that you'll open your mind to receive it... otherwise debate for debate
    sake is fruitless.
    [mts1] 9:15 pm: SO KEMET DO YOU THINK OUR BIOLOGICS ARE THE
    SAME?
    [kemetkind] 9:15 pm: no mts1- I don't
    [mts1] 9:15 pm: SURE I AM OPEN, AS LONG AS IT STICKS WITH TRUTH
    [kemetkind] 9:16 pm: I think melanin matters
    [mts1] 9:16 pm: I WANT TO HAVE THAT CONVERSATIONS, BECUZ SO
    MUCH OF WHAT i THINK GETS IN THE WAY FROM US MOVING FORWARD I
    THINK IS BASED ON SOMETHING THAT I THINK PEOPE SHOULD THINK
    ABOUT
    [Music Producer] 9:16 pm: We taught the Europians everything they know and
    do because we did it to them.
    [mts1] 9:17 pm: THAT IS NOT BIOLOGY BROTHER OLDSOUL

    we will continue the trust factor next week also as brother Lazarus said
    Question for everyone to answer......what do i need to trust you !?


     
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    We've covered steps we can take to show ourselves worthy of each others trust. However, although you may be trustworthy. Am I trust-capable? I hope in the next session we can explore TRUST from this angle.


    Praise and Medase,
    Lazarus
     
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