Black People : Blacks vs. Whites

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  1. txknowledge

    txknowledge Member MEMBER

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    Don't take the thread title the wrong way, it's more of a black perspective vs. white perspective is what it should have said.

    I just want to start off by letting y'all know that I am a white male, from Texas. Hopefully you don't just click the back button or ban me. I have questions.

    Before I get to the questions I would like to let y'all know a little about me. I was raised in a very small town in the country (300 people max) mostly white people. I was raised Seventh Day Adventist, when I got older I became a Baptist, I have spent time in Catholic churches and non-denominational churches. I was not raised to hate or feel superior to anyone, I was raised that all men and women are equal. I don't actually have any black friends (hence the reason I'm here to ask questions), not by choice, the only friends I have to this day are those that I grew up with (the only black family that I know didn't have any kids my age to grow up with).

    My first question: I have gone my entire life believing that all people especially blacks want to end segregation, yet now I hear black leaders speaking about this and I read online about how black people want segregation more than ever especially those with the Muslim influence.

    Do all black people feel the same way about white males? Everywhere on the internet I read of what I would almost call hate. Even on this forum I have read some pretty derogative phrases being used to describe "white males".


    Do y'all believe that whites are still majority behind racism?

    I could keep going, but lets start by discussing this first.
     
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    How'bout we start with how you feel about the points you pose, then
    perhaps folks will more likely field your questions...
     
  3. txknowledge

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    Raptor: I'll go first! My first question about segregation; I would love to see people of all types living in peace and with tranquility with diversity! I love diversity. I don't know if you have ever visited San Antonio or Houston, but they are cities of cultural diversity! It's been a while since I have seen the article, but San Antonio was once among the top 5 cities in the U.S. to have the lowest hate crimes (whether race, gender, or sexuality). To visit there you can actually experience this for yourself. It's like stepping into the future, but not forgetting the past!

    As far as my white males question goes; I don't know how to answer that other than. It's no secret that there are some EVIL people on this earth. Some of which are white, that doesn't make all "white males" bad. The media loves to take snip bits and really make a blanket out of something. There is a class of white people that the media seems to always leave out, the middle class, blue collar, busting their butt to get by which is the mass majority of white Americans. Not the bizarre rich that you see on tv (those people think they are better than EVERYONE), or the meth heads that shouldn't be allowed to pro-create. Normal middle class white people aren't racist like you would think, we are the ones that would help a woman (black or white) change a flat tire on the side of the road, hold the door for anyone walking in behind us, or just say a simple hi as we try to make it through our day to get back home to our families! We aren't filled with hate, resentment or have a secret agenda like many would think.

    I asked if you thought whites were still the majority behind racism; I do not believe that whites are the majority behind racism. I honestly and true heartedly believe that the media pushes sooo much to make us all think that we hate each other! Every time I flip to the news or get on social media there is an article about some sort of hate crime whether it's white on black or black on white! If all we do is focus on hate then we will be setting ourselves back generations on both sides! I know I will sound like a hippy, but love and kindness is what it will take to move forward!
     
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    BLACK SEPARATISM IS A EXTREME FORM OF BLACK NATIONALISM....both historical and current day perspective are more similar than they are different and do overlap. The difference is in degrees or what is focus on or intensified rather than in kind.

    HISTORICAL PERSEPCTIVE
    The Black Segregationist sometimes called Accommodationist were so for the following reason.
    1. Powerful racist and non racist (racialist) whites promoted and supported it
    2. To secure and foster black economic and political growth
    3. To exert effective control over the direction of black society
    4. Religious ideology.
    5. Repatriation to Africa

    CURRENT DAY PERSPECTIVE.
    Black segregationist sometimes called Black Separatist
    1. Reparation - for the current and historical wrongs suffered by Africans at the hands of Europeans
    2. Restitution or institution of Black governance in predominantly black communities.
    3. Integration resulted in Marginalization (Benign Neglect) of blacks and their communities.
    4. Creating black Role models (destroying - the acting white myth and the ghetto hood rat mentality) and fostering Positive Expectation


    They same can be said of almost any racial group


    Yes.....especially in the US and most of the West
     
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    whites created racism, maintain racism and continually benefit from racism.
    all around the world people of various cultures refer to the white man as the devil.

    co incidence?
     
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    not at all. some love them, some hate them, some don't care......
     
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    Diversity is work of Nature, all forms of life are made up of varieties and diversities.
    We all desire peace and they only sure way to achieve peace is through Truth Justice and Fairness.


    No.....I have never visited those cities

    True.....Not all whites are bad
    But that does not negate the fact that both historically and currently most racist are white.



    I am not sure the media is leaving them out but more likely that they have not been vociferous and active enough on the issues of reacism for the media to take notice....... like the blacks suffering under oppression of racism

    Speaking in Majorities Who owns, controls, operate and people the media?
    Who benefits from racism?


    True....we must whenever possible accentuate and promote the positive
    We cannot ignore racist acts either.....we must address them so as to stop them recurring.
     
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    That is an informative answer! That gives me some food for thought!
     
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    Look at segregation as people saying they would like
    to live without 'interference'. I don't know if you
    can comprehend this or not.
     
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    Diversity is not the work of nature. Diversity is the work
    of man.

    You can't say all FORMS of life. When the is only ONE FORM.
     
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