Law Forum : BLACKS DENIED GUN PERMITS IN CHICAGO?

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    Lawsuits Filed As Chicago Denies Black People Concealed Carry Licenses

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    Since the State of Illinois passed a controversial Concealed Carry Weapons permit law last year, a flood of African American applicants have found themselves denied even though they are qualified to receive the permits according to the prerequisites of the law. After hundreds of such residents took a firearms training course, paid an array of fees, and submitted fingerprints for a background check that were then ultimately passed, African American applicants have been receiving notices earlier this year that a special review board has denied their applications for concealed carry licenses.

    One such example, Michael Thomas was puzzled that as a former Air Force reservist who routinely carried a gun during military service and has never had a run-in with the law, was turned down, even though the law does not afford police the discretion to deny permits to those who meet the prerequisites and who are not legally prohibited. But Thomas is just one of more than 800 people who have been denied licenses by the board. This board meets behind closed doors and keeps its records and reasoning secret. Even when applicants meet all the criteria, the board says they have no obligation to explain themselves… even when it seems clear that the only disqualifying factor is the color of the applicant’s skin.

    Thomas wrote to the Illinois State Police, requesting a review of the decision, assuming that it must have been a mistake.

    “I have never been arrested or convicted of any offense, either misdemeanor or felony, in the state of Illinois or any other state,” Thomas explained in his letter. “I have no criminal record of any type.”

    The state police sent him a letter back, saying that the board’s decisions couldn’t be reviewed. Thomas, they explained would have to petition a court in order to appeal.

    So that’s what Thomas did. He joined 193 other Illinoisans – many of whom happen to be African Americans – in filing lawsuits against the state police. Interestingly, few Caucasians who applied for the permit in Illinois have found themselves denied, even when their records are a bit more tarnished (though without felonies), than Thomas’s squeaky-clean background.

    Officials still won’t say why Thomas’ application was denied. They won’t say who denied it either, but the lawsuit hopes to shed some light on this apparently racist review board. Some of those who joined the suit are alleging that the state of Illinois only wants to arm Caucasians, but when people of other ethnic backgrounds apply for permits, they often find themselves inexplicably denied.
    Thomas’s clean record seems to be corroborated by a search of Cook County court records, where he lives. The database turned up no charges. An Air Force spokesman further reported to the local Tribune that Thomas received and honorable discharged in 2012. They added that his military record contains no unfavorable information.

    Lawyers involved in the cases say “There are law-abiding citizens in the state of Illinois who are fully eligible to carry, and they are denied the right and not given any notice as to why,” according to David Thompson, a Washington, D.C., attorney hired to file companion lawsuits in Illinois state court and U.S. District Court. “We want a process established that gives people notice of what evidence the state used to make the determination … and an opportunity to rebut by putting in their own evidence.”

    Federal law prohibits convicted felons and convicted domestic abusers from obtaining firearms. Illinois goes even further with their requirements for obtaining a concealed carry permit. So why are Caucasians being given licenses, while African Americans and others with clean records are being turned away? Makes you wonder



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    Where is the NRA????




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    They rather the criminals have the guns...that way they can keep underserving the black community in chicago...

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    In response to the Sandra Bland case . On line ,People I heard the cop tell the other cop " It didn't take too long" . Referring to himself as he choked the life from her . He also stated" she started kicking." People I then heard the cop tell the female cop " we will put her in your car ." Referring to her cruiser . I also heard the paramedics state to the officer "make sure there nothing under your fingernails." I also heard the cop asked" did you bring the two loops ." People I had the time to study all the viedos relating to her case and I have come o the conclusion that the cop murdered Sandy Bland not in the jail cell BUT right there on the ground underneath the tree . I tried to post what I saw and heard on other site but my computer stopped suddenly . I had to call HP for service to have it repaired . My computer caught a virus that quick from trying to post this statement . Since , the sites has been edited .Why did it take two cop to keep her pinned to the ground? You can also see the cop yanking something around her neck ,yanking hard . In Sandra mugshot the original one with her eyes rolled up toward her head , you can tell she has been dead for about three days , and that she died in vain , shocked . This cop needs to be charged with murder , 1st Degree . Folks need to stop saying she hung herself and start chanting " arrest the cop who murdered Sandra Bland ". They say her autopsy was defected , and her internal organs were intact .However it was never noted what made the autopsy defected . Also I wonder were some or all her organs sold on the Black Market . The original viedo you could the female cop stating to Sandy have a nice life ,as she was taking her last breath of life . I wanted to call a press conference . I made contact with her Family Lawyer,through his secretary . I left message with the NAACP . No responses .I myself have received warnings
     
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    lol seriously. Why don't you ask the KKK to help support the BLM movement.

    Get real man. You know Kem I appreciate your dedication for us, but I see you keep denying the true
    purpose of the formation of amerikkka.


    Once you realize that amerikkka is a business, then maybe you will began to realize why some of these issues are not being addressed.
     
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    More like I was being sarcastic.





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    This is a case worth watching





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    Did you read my article regarding Sandra bland ? The kkk has claimed responsibility for strangling her to death . Not in the jail cell but on the ground underneath the tree , the same day he stopped her for a failure to signal traffic turn. Officer Brian is a kkk member .FBI has the most sophficated equipment known to man . It can disguise your voice ,etc . Sandra Bland never made it to the jail alive . Look at all the organizations backing this so called cop killer up in our faces . Please
     
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    Welcome to Destee.com pamela,


    Wow, its a shame, you did all of that and got no responses. Correct me if I'm wrong, but were you an eye witness to the crime pamela?

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