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    BLACK WOMEN--WHITE MEN Relationships…Fantasies;
    The Cybele Syndrome & Ancient Rome
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    Bernice & her Obsession with the Roman Emperor Titus
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    The Emperor Titus [Titi] only ruled for about two short years as the emperor over Rome and became very famous and well known for his deeds as a ruler however, his rise to power as emperor was actually due to his earlier actions as a Roman military commander who, along with his father Vespasian, instigated a genocidal blood bath movement against the Jews and many other kinds of Jewish citizens in ancient Jerusalem which began in A.D. 66. But one of the many ironies of this major event was that the very Jewish people he raged against were the loyal and committed subjects of the New Roman Empire only about thirty years prior. What later became evident was that certain factions of the well-to-do Jewish people that were once secure, safe, and financially stable had begun to lose their way of life due to the Roman taxation system. The Jewish citizens eventually began to realize that they were systematically losing many privileges by and by due to the Romans of whom were financially supporting the many Greek people [of which would include descendants of the Philistines]. Perhaps the Jewish citizens began to recognize that they were being replaced. Even before that time too, the Jews were a severely divided people and certain factions conflicted continually against each other. But soon they obviously realized that the Roman government had dropped them and did not care to support none of the previous factions they once depended upon to subdue the original Jews. Soon afterwards, the Greek people began to distinguish themselves apart from the Jews which at that time was also an ironic turn of events. Many years prior to the rise of the Roman Empire, there was a Helenistic Movement and many Jews had begun to bond with White Greek people and also formed a new Jewish nation but now, the Roman actions caused the Greeks to see the benefit in becoming separatist from amongst the Jews. To add more irony to this time of division would be the presence and actions of the Roman installed leaders over Jerusalem which were the Herods. The actions of the Jews, the Greeks, the Herods and a woman named Bernice [Berenice] and more have a bearing on how the Roman Empire was able to rise to power.
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    The Herods were Jews because they were supported by the Romans and certain Jews to assume this identity by citizenship and due to this process, they were elevated and installed as Jewish rulers and dominated over the original Jews for many years. The Herods though descended from an ancient civilization in Arabia [the Sinai Peninsula] and they had a distinct and unique identity. Previously they interacted with the White Greek people due to the Helenization Movement that occurred since the time of Alexander-the-great but around the time of the Third Punic War in the 60s B.C., many of them began to seek bonds with Jewish factions including ethnic Jews in order to benefit from the Roman movements into the regions of Jerusalem. It would be during these times too, that Cleopatra of Egypt was at first elevated and then thrown down and she was followed by other significant ethnic women who had become charmed and briefly elevated by the White Roman men. Like the Romans, the Herods began to see the benefit in making some type of unscrupulous relationships with ‘ethnic’ Jewish women and it was these kind of acts that, no matter how evasive the accounts may be, with careful study it becomes evident that these relationships became a significant part of history that goes hand-in-hand with the time span that caused the Roman Empire to rise. So, this part of history would be based upon an hidden agenda that needs to come out because it has prevented Black African-typed people today from being able to understand the process of Black subjugation and how major Black African civilizations became completely thrown down while White domination took rise. One of the three supreme Rome idols was the goddess Cybele and it would be this goddess that links to the White Roman hidden agenda and their beliefs in regards to the history and origin of this goddess becomes one of their basis in how they have operated to completely dominate the Black African world.
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    In hindsight and due to repetitions in history that should now become obvious, it can be surmised that for some reason, White Supremacist people have adopted a pre-conceived belief in regards to the actions of a certain kind of Black African typed woman and like Julius Caesar, many of them have acted upon their beliefs with the aim of dominating the Black African world. In essence, Julius Caesar who has been credited for being a great ruler and a genius for his tactics, would appear to be an enigma. But if his actions are considered more in depth it will become obvious that all he did was repeat what had been done time and time again in the more distant past and that was that he submitted to the matrilineal beliefs and a supreme eastern goddess that had been embraced by much of the Black African world which connects to his beliefs in the goddess Cybele and by this process, Rome rose to power. Julius Caesar like all of the great White rulers of Rome, were fully dedicated to the rise of White Supremacy and to Rome and all of their actions were to this end much to the later realization of the Black rulers, such as Cleopatra, that was eventually and completely conquered on a systematic basis. These White Supremacist made sacrifices and were willing to abase themselves for a cause just as if they gambled their fate on a battlefield and at face value their actions seemed genuine but in actuality, they were deceptive. They made an appeal to the abandoned, scorned, or unfulfilled Black woman and became a vindication against the Black world for her misdirected beliefs in having unrequited affections of the flesh. They made an appeal to that kind of a Black woman of whom harbored modes of self-hatred and justified this hatred on the basis of unnatural demands that no man or human can provide. The Romans systematically invaded Africa, caused conflict and division, and dominated and were able to do so byway of a process and appeal to the African people.
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    All the while he has battled against Black African men, Julius Caesar also adopted a white man to be his heir, went to Egypt and although he did not marry Cleopatra [because he was already married], appealed to her and like Alexander-the-great became elevated in the land of the pharaohs. After his end and Cleopatra’s obvious willingness to engage in Roman affairs intimately, the Romans were able to flatter the Egyptians more so and execute other maneuvers into Egypt for their trade benefit. So Egypt and all of its military men of might was positioned behind a matrilineal system and found themselves in conflict against the Romans of whom were also A MATRILINEAL SYSTEM of Astheroth worship [a supreme White goddess]. So while the Black African Queen, who has been elevated for a brief time of fame due to receiving the flattery and affections of White Roman military men, eventually succumbs to a devastating and humiliating downfall, meanwhile the daughter of Octavian [Augustus] lives on to continue the discreet and well protected matrilineal rule that permeates throughout the Roman existence. So the White woman has been elevated to preserve the god Jupiter and the Black woman was elevated and did the same all the while the Black men were fighting and dying for what? Such was the fate of the Jews in Jerusalem under the leadership of the Herods. John-the-Baptist did not meet his fate though, due to the willingness of the Herod ruler, but it was due to the actions of an ethnic woman within the royal line and due to John who spoke about relationships that did not agree with the Jewish customs that the Herods had professed to have adopted. Her actions define a matrilineal domination. It was only years later that during the command of the Roman military man Titus, there was yet another repetition in history. Titus too repeated the actions of Julius Caesar and yet another ethnic woman became aligned to the Roman ideology in worship of Cybele. According to secular accounts this ethnic queen named Bernice ruled along with Herod Agrippa. Like Cleopatra she too had an obsession with a Roman emperor and after her end, her loose moral behavior caused her to become likened to Cleopatra. Even though Bernice was a Jewish queen to the people of Jerusalem, her affections were to Rome and she was said to have followed the Roman emperor back to Italy with the intent of becoming wedded to him.
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    All the while about a million Jews were being executed at the hands of Vespasian, Titus, and the Roman military which consisted of many captured Hebrews as well, Bernice was in love with the young white Roman man Titus. It was said that after Jerusalem was attacked and many lost their lives, there were thousands of Jews that were captured in the attack, and all the while the Roman commander was ordering captured Jews to be crucified up and down the streets in Jerusalem, Josephus also became a friend to this Roman commander, but Bernice had plans of friendship on a more deeper level. It was said that after the successful attack in Jerusalem, Titus took many of the Jewish captives on a forced march, a Triumphal March, throughout the east and at times, he forced the captives to fight against each other to the death or they were thrown into an arena of wild animals at exhibitions to fight to the death. Indeed it was this Flavian dynasty of Roman rulers that oversaw the major construction of the Roman Coliseum and it was said that after Titus had the temple of the Jews completely demolished in A.D. 70, it was parts of this ruin that also became apart of the funds for building the Roman Coliseum that still stands today. When Titus returned to Italy, it was said that Bernice followed him to Italy and both she and Titus lived together for some time in the Roman court in Italy. So all the while the Roman military attacked the population in Jerusalem, there were men, women, and children being sought out to be killed, yet this White Roman god became the apple of Jewish queen’s eye. But soon after Jerusalem was overthrown, Titus disposed of Bernice at the request of certain Romans and aside from later comments of her being likened unto the negative image that Cleopatra became remembered by as well, her ending became unknown as she was written out of script. But like Cleopatra and Bernice, there were other stories of love affairs that occurred between the coveted White Roman rulers and ethnic and Black African-typed women although after awhile they became stories about enslaved women and also castrated ‘boys’.
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    These early relationships that occurred between White Roman men and ethnic women were a vital aspect of how White Supremacy was able to form. White Roman leaders though, only repeated the past, and relied upon their ancient belief and practices based upon the worship of the supreme eastern mother goddess Cybele. They rose to power by making an appeal to the matrilineal beliefs that had permeated the Black African [Hamitic] world and when they sought to gain a place in the western world, like the more ancient White Greeks had done, they acted upon these beliefs and this caused White Supremacist to in turn adopt a preconceived belief in regards to the typical Black African-typed woman. Part of White Supremacist’ viewpoint was that the Black African-typed woman was always promiscuous and harbored a fanatical obsession and constantly sought to be validated by the affections of a White or foreign man. This prejudiced and negative mindset that the White world practiced against the Black systems also dictated their deceptive movements continually as they made their appeal to the western world. Unfortunately for the kind of Black or ethnic women that became the object of flattery to control, these Black women were allowed to lead the way to total Black subjugation and the effeminate Black men initially acted as if they submitted to the queens out of obedience, but later, they somehow were able to turn around and act out of freewill and totally blamed the Black women after they had lost their complete freedom. Even today, the major movement of Catholicism that was able to mimic ancient matrilineal systems in the basin of Africa has a direct link to the problems and backlash that are occurring right now in Africa against many African women and children.
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    Under a matrilineal system whereby the nurturer becomes the head of mankind, it became an easy mission for the Romans to systematically journey into even the deepest parts of Black Africa, infiltrate, divide, and completely conquer, for almost 90% plus of the Black African men were completely effeminized and initially totally ignorant of the idea that Black women should be wanting of the affections of White men and foreign eastern oriented men. So through the deceptions and flatteries offered to the Black African queens, White Roman men were able to gain control of the wealth of Africa that they so coveted. Bernice and other ethnic queens failed to recognize that the White Roman men they became obsessed with would never had validated them by marriage and put them on an equal or higher level than their White women because it was by the belief in regards to ‘the Black Whore’ that the White woman was elevated. So once Bernice’s actions had given the Romans the chance to believe in their mindset about Black women, then due to the pressures that came from the Roman courts, Titus sent her away and her memory became a mockery and a constant means for vindication of the esteemed Roman ladies of the Roman world.
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    After these type of Black women have been lifted up, exploited, thrown down and then disappear, the negative affects of these actions only sends the African world into another vicious and repetitive violent cycle that continued to allow White Supremacy to be sustained. Now the White Romans have to come in and moderate by laws. After these elevated Black African queens had secretly abandoned the affections of her own Black mankind and sought the affections of the great White Roman man of her fantasies and after being mocked and thrown down, and disappear from the public eye, the embittered effeminized Black men of whom has lost his freedom as suddenly become aware of his fate, and then he wants to turn his anger and rage against the many unsuspecting Black women and children all around that he sees when he rises and when he sleeps. All of a sudden, this kind of Black man wants to exercise male domination over his Black womankind but it will now be exercised out of complete hatred and thus acts of sex becomes used as a method of recompense and Black woman and children become constantly vulnerable to rape byway of their own mankind. Therefore, another vicious cycle repeats and the Roman system allowed for this kind of evil gender rage to occur against the Black women and children captive within the system and once again, Black African women begin to fantasize over a deliverance out of her miserable lot byway of the White Roman welfare system be it a White man, a foreign eastern-typed man, or etc. and they raise their sons, nurture their sons, and instill ideals in their sons… to fight against their enemies be it another dead beat Black man who were once their fathers or they gang up against their own peers, etc. When will Black men and Black women stop looking for deliverance from White Supremacy and domination byway of White or foreign love affairs that are nothing but mere fantasy?
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    Ironically too, by that time in human history when elevated ethnic women like Bernice and Cleopatra had become mesmerized by the White Roman gods, many of the original Black Hamitic people were already pushed farther away from their lands and the ethnic kinds of men that were once too idolized based on Colorism in Africa and ‘the Middle East’, now began to find themselves in a death fight for freedom against the Roman world. By this time many of these ethnic men were either brown skinned or they could have been just as light as many of the Romans nevertheless, they were ethnic men of whom had unique cultures. Part of the confusion that continues to exist within the Black African world would be that many Black African people by then had mixed ancestry of some kind but when the Romans wanted to take their freedom, they appealed to the matrilineal system upon the basis of Color Supremacy and attributes that appealed to the Black and ethnic women such as ‘good hair’ and etc. and eventually, even the light skinned man found himself vulnerable to complete annihilation and became the butt of the joke of Rome. That was the fate of the Hebrews and so many other ethnic cultures at that time.
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    The Roman system had continually come against many different kinds of ethnic people and turned them one against the other for so long and then suppressed the true identities of these conquered people in script. Therefore after Bernice was elevated and thrown down, her actual identity has been hidden and we are confused today in just how much the White Supremacist has studied and benefited from their preconceived beliefs in regards to the Black African-typed woman in order to exploit them for their advantage against the entire Black and ethnic world. The name ‘Bernice’ befit’s the presence of an original ‘Seth-typed’ [Hamitic, African] woman but by that time in history, she could have looked like a thin lipped fair skinned Black woman like Jennifer Beale, a thicker lipped darker skinned Black woman like Monique, or a White Greek typed image like Elizabeth Taylor. Nevertheless, ancient Black women had been conditioned to believe that their presence must be validated byway of sensual affections received from certain kinds of men as a method of acknowledgement and supremacy. Ancient ethnic women like Bernice desired to have this kind of acknowledgment not from Black men, but from other kinds of foreign eastern men but used their own Black men to present them as being desirable to other kinds of men. The Romans and other White systems had obviously studied this hidden agenda of these kind of ethnic women and at times exploited and elevated them in order to dominate the ethnic world and of course this method has been constantly used today for the benefit of White Supremacy.
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    We are all born in ‘sin’ [Sinology] and have been conditioned to believe in the eastern goddess Cybele. The ancient Black women have been conditioned to expect Black men to acknowledge their presence as being supreme but in turn, Black women are also conditioned to suppress a normal expectation that as a woman, it would be natural to initially expect attention from any man of which would obviously include White and foreign men. But because of the conditioning to hide this normal expectation, it becomes an obsession and an hidden agenda for Black women and for this reason, the Black African world has been exploited and easily divided. Because the Black woman has been conditioned to hide this initial normal expectation of wanting to be acknowledged by men that would include White and foreign eastern men, history shows that it becomes an obsession, and soon they were secretly mocked, exploited, and used at times to undercut the Black world and then blamed and attacked for the downfall. Based on the depravity of this natural human expectation that has been instilled in all women, White Supremacist mock and constantly thrive off of this preconditioning. So, Julius Caesar’s and other Roman leaders’ actions only reveal that they decided to flatter and incite the Black African world through manipulation of this kind of affection dangled in front of the Medusas and Pandoras of the past for the purpose to dominate the Black and ethnic world. Because of the co-dependency actions of this type of imbalanced woman, it also fed into the psyche of White Supremacist as well and they viewed this kind of woman as ‘a conquered woman’. Those kind of ethnic women could not overcome this evil process of mockery that came from the White world and they could not recognize how obvious they appeared to not only White people, but their actions also became evident to the many other kinds of ethnic people that were in a constant struggle against White Supremacy. As a result, these actions in the past has led Black women to become the blame for many problems, and then isolated by their own mankind and left vulnerable for attack.
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    Nevertheless, it would be ridiculous to believe that any struggle for deliverance in the past [or the present] of Black African people was headed up by some great White Roman, or an Arab, or some Native American man, or etc., who fell in love with a Black woman and decided to use his people to fight for Black African freedom. It would also be superficial to believe too, that African people would exist free under some ancient great White woman-mother queen who embraced a Black African king or pharaoh or etc. Those kinds of superficial fantasy love affair stories that have been overlooked by Black African people becomes the marker for the kind of negative conditioning that has permeated our history and goes hand-in-hand with our being continually suppressed. What a paradox; The White world today claim Nefertiti as being a White woman but many Black Africans still believe she was an original African woman, and the White world today describe Cleopatra as being likened to Elizabeth Taylor, and the Black world becomes indifferent and inconclusive of which has opened the door for that age old process of exploitation to become exercised again against unsuspecting and shallow Black women to be comforted with a false notion in that some great White man or foreign eastern man will rescue the Black African world from victimization. To accept that it would take a foreign man and his people to deliver African men becomes a marker for the recognition of an effeminized Black man because if that were true, then the Black man would continually be subdued down under other kinds of people. But there happens to be no truth in those kind of fantasy stories at all. There has never been or never will be a time in the past, present, or future that the Black African world was delivered by any other kind of man other than the initial might, instigation, and spiritual will power of the Black African man of whom has been nurtured by the arms of a Black African woman. In every circumstance where Black women of past and present were ever delivered, it was initiated byway of Black African men and women of whom at times found it to be beneficial to join forces with other ethnic peoples to conquer White domination and such was the account of so many conflicts in the ancient North American Native struggles all across the continent.
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    From the earliest of times in the A.D. 1500s up until the modern times, the African presence and the Native American presence was constantly under attack due to the European movements nevertheless, the African presence amongst the Native Americans and the later Africans that became apart of this experience was a unique and distinct experience apart from many other kinds of Native people. Many times these various African and Native people came together to fight a common cause but there was never a time where there was not a Black African man and tribe that depended upon others to initiate self defense and self preservation for their own women and children. It would have been that type of fire stirred up within African people that would have been the appeal to cause other Natives to want to join forces. If we continue to believe in those kind of false stories that feeds into the imaginations of the imbalanced Black woman then, we will become prey to an hidden agenda that could manifest and be a detriment to our presence. Under no circumstances would any White or foreign man reach over a Black man and deliver a Black women on his own accord or choose to rescue that woman if she were apart of a passive group of people unless there was some kind of gain. His own womankind would destroy that kind of union. When the original Jews formed a strong culture they made an appeal to others and they were stocked, but when they became weakened, they lost their appeal and became regarded as any conquered people would have been regarded; undesirable pawns. It was only a matter of time that they were attacked and driven out of those coveted lands. Those kinds of superficial romance stories of which ancient woman became apart of have a terrible ending and that should be the focus. If the Black African and ethnic world want to be free from White domination, then our deliverance comes from within. It will come from nurturers who instill integrity and values and self appreciation into their sons and daughters regardless of the negative actions of other Black African man or women. Deliverance will come from within if it will come at all.
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    Prior to becoming Emperor, Titus gained renown as a military commander, serving under his father in Judaea during the First Jewish-Roman War. The campaign came to a brief halt with the death of emperor Nero in 68, launching Vespasian’s bid for the imperial power during the Year of the Four Emperors. When Vespasian was declared Emperor on 1 July 69, Titus was left in charge of ending the Jewish rebellion. In 70, he besieged and captured Jerusalem, and destroyed the city and the Second Temple. For this achievement Titus was awarded a triumph; the Arch of Titus commemorates his victory to this day….


    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Titus
    During the Jewish wars, Titus had begun a love affair with Berenice, sister of Agrippa II. [25] the Herodians had collaborated with the Romans during the rebellion, and Berenice herself had supported Vespasian upon his campaign to become emperor. [53] In 75, she returned to Titus and openly lived with him in the palace as his promised wife.
    When the pair was publicly denounced by Cynics in the theatre, Titus caved in to the pressure and sent her away, [55]…

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Titus
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    In modern history, her aspirations as a potential empress of Rome have led to her being described as a ‘miniature Cleopatria’. [26]

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Berenice_(daughter_of_Agrippa_I
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    Surviving a group suicide, Josephus surrendered to Vespasian and became a prisoner. He later wrote that he provided the Romans with intelligence on the ongoing revolt. [21] By 68, the entire coast and the north of Judaea were subjugated by the Roman army, with decisive victories won at Taricheae and Gamala, where Titus distinguished himself as a skilled general. [15][22]
    Siege of Jerusalem
    …After attempts by Josephus to negotiate a surrender had failed, the Romans resumed hostilities and quickly breached the first and second walls of the city. [35] to intimidate the resistance, Titus ordered deserters from the Jewish side to be crucified around the city wall. [36] By this time the Jews had been exhausted by famine, and when the weak third wall was breached, bitter street fighting ensued. [37]
    …Upon his arrival in the city in 71, Titus was awarded a triumph [47] Accompanied by Vespasian and Domitian he rode into the city, enthusiastically saluted by the Roman populace and preceded by a lavish parade containing treasures and captives from the war….

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Titus

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    Vespasian
    (…Latin: Titus Flavius Caesar Vespasianus Augustus;…) [2][3] was Roman Emperor from AD 69 to AD 79. Vespasian was the founder of the Flavian dynasty, … subjugating Judaea during the Jewish rebellion of AD 66. [5] While Vespasian was preparing to besiege the city of Jerusalem during the latter campaign, emperor Nero committed suicide, plunging the empire into a year of civil war known as the Year of the Four Emperors….


    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vespasian
    Titus (Latin: Titus Flavius Caesar Vespasianus Augustus; [2] …), was Roman Emperor from 79 to 81. A member of the Flavian dynasty, Titus succeeded his father Vespasian upon his death, thus becoming the first Roman Emperor to come to the throne after his own father.
    Under the rule of his father, Titus gained notoriety in Rome serving as prefect of the Praetorian Guard, and for carrying on a controversial relationship with the Jewish queen Bernice. Despite concerns over his character, Titus ruled to great acclaim following the death of Vespasian in 79, and was considered a good emperor by Suetonius and other contemporary historians….


    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Titus
    Julius Caesar
    Caesar and Cleopatra never married, as Roman law recognized marriages only between two Roman citizens.


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    The Herodian Dynasty was a Judean dynasty of Idumean descent. Herodian dynasty began with Herod the Great, who assumed the throne of Judea, with Roman support,…

    His kingdom lasted until 4 BCE, …






    …last Herodian monarch, Agrippa II, died and Rome assumed full power of his domain.


    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Herodian_Dynasty
    Berenice was born in 28 [1] to Herod Agrippa and Cypros, …
    To prevent Jewish violence from further escalating, Agrippa assembled the populace and delivered a tearful speech to the crowd in the company of his sister, [13] but the Jews alienated their sympathies when the insurgents burned down their palaces. [14] They The war ended in 70 with the destruction of the Second Temple and the sack of Jerusalem, with approximately 1 million dead, and 97,000 taken captive by the Romans. [20]

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Berenice_(daughter_of_Agrippa_I
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    …answered Paul, and said, Wilt thou go up to Jerusalem, and there be judged of these things before me? Then said Paul, I stand at Caesar's judgment seat, where I ought to be judged: to the Jews have I done no wrong, as thou very well knowest…..I appeal unto Caesar. Then Festus, when he had conferred with the council, answered, Hast thou appealed unto Caesar? unto Caesar shalt thou go.
    And after certain days king Agrippa and Bernice came unto Caesarea to salute Festus….
    Then Agrippa said unto Festus, I would also hear the man myself. To morrow, said he, thou shalt hear him. And on the morrow, when Agrippa was come, and Bernice, with great pomp, and was entered into the place of hearing, with the chief captains, and principal men of the city, at Festus' commandment Paul was brought forth.

    And Festus said, King Agrippa, and all men which are here present with us, ye see this man, about whom all the multitude of the Jews have dealt with me, both at Jerusalem, and also here, crying that he ought not to live any longer….
    ACTS 25: 9-12, 13, 22-24.
    [1] Then Agrippa said unto Paul, Thou art permitted to speak for thyself. Then Paul stretched forth the hand, and answered for himself: [2] I think myself happy, king Agrippa, because I shall answer for myself this day before thee touching all the things whereof I am accused of the Jews: [3] Especially because I know thee to be expert in all customs and questions which are among the Jews: wherefore I beseech thee to hear me patiently. [4] My manner of life from my youth, which was at the first among mine own nation at Jerusalem, know all the Jews; [5] Which knew me from the beginning, if they would testify, that after the most straitest sect of our religion I lived a Pharisee. [6] And now I stand and am judged for the hope of the promise made of God unto our fathers: [7] Unto which promise our twelve tribes, instantly serving God day and night, hope to come….
    [28] Then Agrippa said unto Paul, Almost thou persuadest me to be a Christian. [29] And Paul said, I would to God, that not only thou, but also all that hear me this day, were both almost, and altogether such as I am, except these bonds. [30] And when he had thus spoken, the king rose up, and the governor, and Bernice, and they that sat with them: [31] And when they were gone aside, they talked between themselves, saying, This man doeth nothing worthy of death or of bonds. [32] Then said Agrippa unto Festus, This man might have been set at liberty, if he had not appealed unto Caesar…. ACTS 26: 1-7, 28-32.
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    Can't believe you had that title, then your whole thread is about Ancient Rome. None of that stuff can be proven, and I didn't even read it all.
     
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    Do you think I would talk about issues today!?-When none of this stuff against us Black folk can be proven either!? smh.

    No matter if people choose to believe history or not, it still should be studied to help us see what is going on today.
     
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    touché...
     
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    The fate of an Effeminized man...

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