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Been around the herder/guardian dog class much Kem?
Protecting THEIR territory, and their personal charges is what makes them special.

Sure you can have them accept almost any group as theirs to care for be it the cat, or a flock of chickens but all others be it squirrels, possums, ground hogs or a strange cat or chicken are outsiders and threats to be dealt with. That's why socialization is important in the dogs early life. That's why training for what is a threat and what is not a threat is important in what to them is the strange land of the humans.
If you want to flat line the spirit of a herder/guardian just take away his agency to keep his charges safe and territory clear of ALL trespassers.

A properly trained dog will do what it's trained to do




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Uh huh, thanx for all those three sentences of such sage thoughts on dogs.
Now how bout three more on how little you know bout dogs or training.

it dawns on me I've heard that kind of training/handling advice before..............from the intro of the yank and crank training books printed in the 30 and 40's. Still ran into it in the early 70's. Yeh I've met too many flat dogs in my life and I'm sad for the dog every time. Then I watch an owner strut around like he has done something other than produce a wreck.
For the understanding of or for the handling of dogs your three sentences are about as useless as it comes. Hell they don't even offer moral support.

A properly trained dog will do what it's trained to do




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Now, mr. dog expert why don't you answer my direct question at the beginning of my post.
What do you know bout the herder/guardian group of dogs. And to further add to that question, how many in that herder/guardian group have you owned, have you handled or have even met and what was their purpose? Herder? guardian? Or door stop?
I've made my guess which it is. Now prove me wrong.
 
Uh huh, thanx for all those three sentences of such sage thoughts on dogs.
Now how bout three more on how little you know bout dogs or training.

it dawns on me I've heard that kind of training/handling advice before..............from the intro of the yank and crank training books printed in the 30 and 40's. Still ran into it in the early 70's. Yeh I've met too many flat dogs in my life and I'm sad for the dog every time. Then I watch an owner strut around like he has done something other than produce a wreck.
For the understanding of or for the handling of dogs your three sentences are about as useless as it comes. Hell they don't even offer moral support.


Now, mr. dog expert why don't you answer my direct question at the beginning of my post.
What do you know bout the herder/guardian group of dogs. And to further add to that question, how many in that herder/guardian group have you owned, have you handled or have even met and what was their purpose? Herder? guardian? Or door stop?
I've made my guess which it is. Now prove me wrong.


Apples and elephants




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Apples and elephants




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Nope, not even close.
Count them off, virtually every single dog used for what you would call guardians today have herding in their background. The GSD, the Dutch Shepard, the Malinois and yes the Rottweiler to name just a handful, but I think they are certainly the most popular. But feel free to add to the list.
Why do you think those herder/guardian group of dogs are worked in so many different ways? So adaptive to their environment and still be of benefit?
Say as opposed to the single use work ethic of the strict herder of, um let me think, the Shelties, the Border Collie, the Australian Shepherd are popular I think, I've never seen or heard of them do anything but either herding or some pastime the owners dreams up to center their relentless energy usually around agility or sitting around throwing a ball for them to go fetch (LOL for half the day). Nothing wrong with them I just find them eh eh kinda one dimensional, one always knows what one is getting and nothing else.
So no they are not apples and elephants. There are herders, there are guardians and then there are herder/guardians.

So how many herder/guardians have you known or met?
 
Nope, not even close.
Count them off, virtually every single dog used for what you would call guardians today have herding in their background. The GSD, the Dutch Shepard, the Malinois and yes the Rottweiler to name just a handful, but I think they are certainly the most popular. But feel free to add to the list.
Why do you think those herder/guardian group of dogs are worked in so many different ways? So adaptive to their environment and still be of benefit?
Say as opposed to the single use work ethic of the strict herder of, um let me think, the Shelties, the Border Collie, the Australian Shepherd are popular I think, I've never seen or heard of them do anything but either herding or some pastime the owners dreams up to center their relentless energy usually around agility or sitting around throwing a ball for them to go fetch (LOL for half the day). Nothing wrong with them I just find them eh eh kinda one dimensional, one always knows what one is getting and nothing else.
So no they are not apples and elephants. There are herders, there are guardians and then there are herder/guardians.

So how many herder/guardians have you known or met?


And yet, they don't attack the farm's chickens




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