Black Spirituality Religion : Black Power In Numbers

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  1. Metaverse

    Metaverse Well-Known Member MEMBER

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    I wanted to make a separate thread to expound on some the conversations on the "Running Numbers" thread -that way, we can compartmentalize this one point:

    We've heard the term "there is power in numbers" and usually we are talking about the power of groups, unions and communities to organize and fight against something. But in this case, we are speaking about numerology and the zodiac- the 9 planets to be precise.

    Now. "Black Power" -something we've been discussing recently in a multitude of threads, is magnetism, the ability to absorb from long distances-remotely, even beyond dimensions themselves. Again. This is why the "Black power" fist is really the symbol of an antenna held up about the head. Such power can translate into many different things, our numbers as well as the planets that correspond to them, would help us- somewhat- to pin-point what our exact power is and how we should be training to utilize it.

    This should be interesting, if not entertaining to say the least. Keep in mind, we are not dealing with personality, destiny numbers, characteristics etc., that both numerology and astrology are known for. We are speaking about power and where we can draw our power from.

    For now we will only deal with the Earth day, even though it's possible to extract a "power number" as detailed in the "Running Numbers" thread and use that as well to direct certain types of energy.

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    "I live like a man who's already dead," Malcolm X

    Ancestor Malcolm X was born on May 19, 1925. His earth day number is: 1+9=1

    Based on this Malcolm's ruling planet for his Earth day is the Sun. Calculate your Earth day and find out what Planet rules over that day using the list below.

    1. Sun (Leo/Aries) 2. Moon (Cancer) 3. Jupiter (Pisces/Sagittarius)
    4. Uranus (Aquarius) 5. Mercury (Gemini/Virgo) 6. Venus (Taurus/Libra)
    7. Neptune (Pisces/Cancer) 8. Saturn (Capricorn) 9. Mars. (Aries/Scorpio)

    Ancestor Malcolm X's "Black power" is drawn from the Sun. Is that surprising? Not at all. So if you were born on the 1st, 10th, 19th or 28th of any month you also draw your power from the Sun.

    Sun Gods and Goddesses have always been strong leaders, which is why all leadership, political and spirituality is derived from the Sun Gods our Ancient Ancestors.

    Now we know Malcolm X was a Taurus, but it's always very interesting when someone as the same planet ruling their Earth day as well as their astrological sign. Don't worry, it's actually very normal not to have matching planets. If Malcolm was a Leo or Aries for example, that might be too much Sun perhaps. Venus helped him to be a loving and compassionate leader as well. But since we are talking about "power" and not "personality" it's clear that Malcolm's power was drawn from the Sun-like Superman.

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    (side note: Why is Obama and Wife on myspace? http://www.myspace.com/barackobama, http://www.myspace.com/michelleobama)

    But just out of curiosity, I've heard the theories behind the relationship between Malcolm X and soon to be President- Barack Obama.
    We are "told" (because ~those in the know~ often lie about their exact day of birth) that President Obama was born on: Aug. 4, 1961 so his power is drawn from Uranus. So while Leo is a Sun sign- which is good for leadership "personality" wise, his real power is drawn from...wait a minute here..Uranus is the planet for very powerful mind control.

    I guess we'll have to cross that bridge when we get to it.

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    Let's go backwards for a moment. Way back. Let's examine Ancestor Marcus Mosiah Garvey, Jr. August 17 1887 - An 8, drawing power from Saturn- which is Set, also known as Satan. Interestingly enough, this Satan tried to free us from bondage "too". Very interesting correlation there. In fact, Satan sparked the Black liberation/consciousness movement-period. This "Jr" gave the other "Jr" his template. You figure it out.

    And if you were born on the 8th, 17th or 26th of any month, perhaps you are a "Set" as well. I know many wish such people did in fact carry pitchforks that way you could see them coming.

    What this information means to you, depends on how far you are willing to take it. For me personally, my number is 9- drawing my power from Mars. As a Gemini with the power of Mars, I have a hidden advantage. (sinister laughter) But it's perhaps true we all have a hidden advantage once we understand how our Black power can be used to our benefit.

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  2. Astrologer4U

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    1. Sun (Leo/Aries) 2. Moon (Cancer) 3. Jupiter (Pisces/Sagittarius)
    4. Uranus (Aquarius) 5. Mercury (Gemini/Virgo) 6. Venus (Taurus/Libra)
    7. Neptune (Pisces/Cancer) 8. Saturn (Capricorn) 9. Mars. (Aries/Scorpio)


    Meta, what about the planets in each number, like when someone is born on a day that contains two digits. Like me for instance, my birthday is on the
    11th which would be the number 2, However, also 1 and 1 is Sun+Sun If this is correct or incorrect from your understanding on numerolgy, please help me to understand what this say's about me or what it does not say about me?

    Malcolm X 19th is also Sun+Mars

    Marcus Garvey 17th is also Sun+Neptune

    Obama is on the 4th so his power would be dealing with Uranus alone. Also, did you know that Obamas rising sign is Aquarius?


    One more thing two Meta, have you ever had your chart done? If so, do you know or remember what your rising sign is? I get the feeling your rising sign is Scorpio.



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  3. Metaverse

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    Queen Astrologer4U, I've had so many charts done and it's been awhile since I've looked at it. I don't recall a rising in Scorpio but I'd have to look thru my junk files to find it.

    As far as your numbers, from my understanding you always want to add double digits together to get a single digit, except in the case of master numbers which you have- 11. And there is 22, 33, 44 etc. There are certain places where master numbers have no real value and should be added together anyway. This is such a case, only because there are only 9 vibrations that we are dealing with.

    Your double digit theory is still possible, I wouldn't rule it now, more research is needed. This technique is used by hindu astrology, there are mantras for each planet.

    Out of curiosity.....
    Let's get some "11" people in here and see if we can extract some logic.

    Bonnie Pointer
    July 11, 1950 (Cancer)
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    Kimberley Coles
    January 11, 1966 (Capricorn)
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    Mary Jane Blige
    January 11, 1971 (Capricorn)
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    Kimberly Denise Jones aka Lil' Kim
    July 11, 1975 (Cancer)
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    Bonnie Pointer and Lil' Kim have allot in common. This is an example of what happens when a person has the same ruling planet in their zodiac as well as their Earth day. I'm using this example to explain the logic behind the numbers. Both Miss Pointer and Lil' Kim draw their power from the moon, sometimes that energy can go too far.

    An individual's ability to share, participate, reflect and be a member of society is signified by the Moon. The Moon also rules over Womanhood. We can tell that all of these Women are dealing with the power of the Moon in different ways, all dealing with Womanhood and the expression of Womanhood. Mary J. has more Man problems than a maximum security prison if you listened to her albums, and we already know the 411 on Lil' Kim.

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    Hon. Minister Farrakhan
    May 11th, 1933

    Sun+Sun or Moon?
     
  4. 44Reasons

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    Jay Z also bears the Crown of being born on the 4th.

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    I would also like to add I am a Taurus and was born May 4th.

    Me Jay and Obama have something in common and it's not the day we were born!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! LOL:welldone:
     
  5. Astrologer4U

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    Yes, I have had my share of negative issues involving men. Not anymore though. I became aware of my power and as a result, I don't waste my energy with people in general. Wasting energy with people not worthy of my energy, is no different from casting pearls to swine. I had to learn that the hard way. Honestly speaking though, for real, negative issues involving men is over with and has been for a long time now. It has to do with Pluto making sublte changes in Sag before entering into Capricorn, which is my Sun sign.


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    MetaSaience:

    I do have a question in concerns to the 9 vibrations of this system of numerology verse that of the 8 vibrations of the Chaldean system. Which is more accurate?

    Secondly, the ancient used the 7 planet system verses the 12 or 9 ... does it make sense to use 9 vibrational numbers with 9 planet vibrations? I mean it makes logical sense to me, but then we still have the issues with Chaldean 8 vibrational system.

    Third, using such vibrations does it work with the 13 signs astrology? Astrologer4U had a question that dealt with the number 11 so in this sense I can see using the reduction factor making the number 11/2, yet Phil Valentine made reference to the Hebrew numbers which in fact came from the ancient Khem.tic peoples. This number system I was learning some years back but I will do my best to give a little rundown on it.

    Astrologer4U, each of the Hebrew letters have a numerical value and the same in reverse the numbers have letter values. If you look at it from this system then each letter has a constellation which each constellation has a meaning. The number 11 the numerical value of day you were born on represents the constellation of Pisces if your are going by the amount of numbers in the Hebrew lettering system (22). The number 11 is also the letter 'Vau' which means connection or to connect. There is also another way that you can look at it. 11 can also in the Hebrew number value system be 10 + 1 which would be the letters 'Yod' and 'Alef' having 2 meanings. Alef is the connection between the higher and lower or 'as is above, so below' and the 'Yod' the infinite point of space and time ... which is funny because its still 'Vau' which is to connect.

    The constellation of Pisces which has many definitions but and you know them I assume by your name.

    This is just a basic if you use the more ancient numbering system which actually goes up to 400. Once again, this numbering system comes from the Egyptians/Khemetic peoples.

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    Another example would be 13 which would be the 13th letter of the Hebrew Alef-bet, 'Nun' (Kemetic: Primordial waters) constellation - Southern Fish. Nevertheless, the numerical value of 'Nun' is 50 and has its own meaning.

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    MetaSaience probably can help me out with this one but I'm sure Omo can as well ...

    My number would be 22 which is the last letter of the Hebrew Alef-Bet which would be 'Tav' - constellation, Southern Cross with a numerical value of 400. Rising would be Libra (11:32am), Cancer whether were using the 13 planets Zodiac or the 12 planet Zodiac. Please note the day you were concieved on has a meaning as well. My day was Thursday - Jupiter (Pisces/Sagittarius)

    If your using the 13 planet Zodiac then Barak Obama would be a Cancer (If I'm wrong on this then I hope Brotha Elder Omo correct me on this)as well with the number 4 as I have. Speaking of this system, here is a link to where I got the his birthday to also represent Cancer: Click Here!!!

    If the way that MetaSaience propose it to work, work; then it makes total sense. The hypnotic movements he used during his compiagn makes logical sense which means his ability for mind-control can be powerful. He was also born on a Tuesday which represent the planet Mars the sign of Aries/Scorpio.

    This is based on the theory that his numbers are correct ...

    Peace and Blessings.
     
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    according to this chart,my day number is 9,based on this my ruling planet is Mars,so iam a cancer on Mars,what does it mean?

    Pluto is not even a planet,so it's maybe more accurate ...
     
  8. Metaverse

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    Very keen and very important questions Bro. RU!

    I've always been interested in those aspects myself. The system that is most popular, the one I use is the Pythagorean system. Pythagoras was a Greek master mathematician and a student of Kemetic occult math and magic. In fact, this is perhaps where he extract most of his theorems- considering that Kmt has 9 principle Gods. Pythagoras also started his own Secret society behind all this, his students were forbidden to put anything in writing.

    Now we know that the Chaldean system is much older. But there are other numerology charts and methods out there. Hebrew Numerology is the Kabbalah. Ancient Japanese used a system called "Ki" There is Cheiro Numerology used in India. And there is still an African system of Numerology used for divination that is unrecorded and only known to certain initiates and those who keep those secrets and mysteries alive.

    So I would say the same thing for those who study the Sidereal Zodiac, Kemetic Zodiac or Western Zodiac, if you've studied it and if if it is accurate for you- then use it. It's really that simple. The accuracy rate however, will prove which system you should use. And in that case you'd have to be very scientific instead of loyal.

    My theory is that both numerology and astrology give us a map of the "super-conscious" layer we are attached too. This means that, the most accurate method depends on- one- the language of the people or tribe you are born into, and two- the "sense of time" kept by that tribe.

    Pythagorean's system will make more sense, because- well...we only have 9 numbers of "value" in reality period. Understand all of these systems are still used, just for different aspects of life. The Kabbalah system wouldn't be used for birth dates, only names and words. It has only 22 vibrations ranging from 1 to 400. The Chaldean's (Iraq) considered the 9 holy, so they took that vibration out of their chart altogether except when it is a result of adding numbers.

    Bro. RU, I curious about Bro. OM's interpretation as well, so I'll wait and give some more information later one.

    Queen Astrologer4U, seeing that 11 is a master number anyway- I always recommend that strong Masters find their strong students not other Masters, that's where issues usually arrive. The problem with some Men? We don't like being a Woman's student.

    Personally, I enjoy it....but that's another thread entirely.
     
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    First name is 14159
    Last name is 2111
    Birth given Middle name 7133512
    Middle name on Drivers licnense 71339835

    Help me out Meta...


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    They must have had Master numbers hiding away in one of their five core numbers because none of them had Master Numbers in their birth day number. It wasn't really an issue of teaching a brother because teaching a brother certain things is a turn off for me, only, and particularly, if I my reason for being with him is to lead into a potential commited relationship. I prefer to share knowledge with a potential man who is interested in becoming committed and, he share his knowledge with me, giving and recieving on both sides. Me teaching him, or guiding him, that is a no, no. Us guiding/teaching each other, cool. The issues I have had with men, have to do more so with trust. Now that you explain that the 11 is the constelation of Pisces, I can understand now why trust would be an issue.



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