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mrron

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Seems to me Roarin that you have rested your case on a hollow shell. Strong words minus accomplishments mean absolutely nothing. What have you or your group done? Hell, I can promised to be the next president of the United States or grow to be seven feet tall and play center for the Pistons. It ain't going to happen. You told me to expect a challenge, where is it? Blowing in the wind? When I was a kid there was a black man who drove a wagon to pick up junk. Whenever the wagon was empty, it made a lot of noise. You remind me of that wagon.
 

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MrRon,

your contentions have been found by ME, to be full of holes
just like swiss cheese.

Any further diatribe would be no more than mental masterbation,
and I don't indulge.

However I Am 'curious,' (maybe it's that CAT in ME) however, you
and the barbarians that you embrace (the american government,)

have left nothing but a 'legacy' of murder, deceit, sanctioned homosexuality, pedophilia and racism amongst others as a legacy of 'accomplishment.'

What do you know about ANY organization that a MAN like ME may 'frequent,'
or have accomplished?

How are you able to comprehend that which for you and those sympathic
with you, find gleefully incomprehensible?

If I had not found such a contention so amusing, I never would've asked.
But you should maybe consider a career in comedy!

I AM sure (with 'scooter' libby,) you will find yourself in good company!


ROARIN....
 

mrron

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Roarin, you are right, I know nothing about a man like you or an organization you might frequent. Why don't you enlighten me and the other's here? I'm sure that our gay friends whould love to hear of your disdain for them, especially since you think racism is so bad, they have the same issues with discrimination.

I'm not a government cheerleader, but I do get respect from the public for what I do. What is it that you do? You mentioned murderers in the context of our government. I arrest murderers, I don't commit them. What do you do? Many of the people in jail, who you don't think should be there, are murderers. Can we bring them to your house? If I were you, I'd quit the discussion to, because you are just rambling on about nothing. Yes, I am a comedian, glad you find me funny. HaHa.
 

roarin1

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What is it that I do?

I neither condone nor murder 90 year old Black Women who
are understandably terrified of whom may be breaking into
HER House and therefore makes an extremely GALLANT attempt

at defending HERSELF. I neither murder nor condone the murder
of 14 yr old Black Boys, whom had found Themselves incarcerated
in a juvenile facility for the first time for the minor offence of 'joy' riding.

I neither murder nor condone the murders of grooms on the eve of
their weddings.

I neither 'cuff' nor condone the 'cuffing' of 5 yr, old Little Black Girls
in an already racist and biased school system for simply 'crying for
Their Mothers.

The list can go on and on and on, however the only other concern I
Really have for the rest of this evening here is emphatically inform you that WHATEVER I do and
whenever I may do it is NONE of your Business and make no mistake about that.

You say you arrest murderers you don't commit them. I guess some of the more gullible may believe you on certain message boards.

I don't care.

But still, maybe you should talk to some of your boy's cause I don't think they gettin the message.

Btw, respect is EARNED ('least the kind I'M familiar with,) not co-erced.
 

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ROARIN1:

"Not only are your views skewed, but they are twisted AND demented. I don't abide well with psychosis, I don't have patience."

I'll take the above quote as open acknowledgement that you cannot reconcile this contradiction. Thanks for finally answering, even in this particular way.
 

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DESTEE:

Well thank you again sister, you sure know how to flatter a brother and make him feel completely at ease. You realize it's not true that dark skinned brothers don't blush, since you make me blush all the time ;)

I completely agree with what you said, but would like to qualify my statement regarding police officers. Indeed the system itself is corrupted and as one of my instructors use to say "It's all bad." However, what I pointed out respecting prosecutors is a fact that has been researched quite a bit. I myself am only pointing this out because the master's program that I have recently completed concerned this very issue. Or rather, since my degree is in Criminal Justice, these are some of the issues we have dealt with.

In any case, it surprised me to know that just because a person gets arrested does not mean they'll appear in court, regardless of what they are arrested for. If a prosecutor refuses to press charges against what a police officer arrests an individual for, that person must go free to the chagrin of the arresting officer. Conversely if a person is arrested, and charged with a crime not by an arresting officer, but a public citizen--such as you and me--if the citizen refuses to press charges the prosecutor can actually do it.

That is, say hypothetically speaking there is a domestic dispute involving your mate and a neighbor calls the police. The police arrive at the scene and arrest your mate, whom you had an argument with. You vociferously make your objections clear to this arrest and intervention, which you did not request. Therefore, you refuse to press any kind of charges against your mate--like spousal abuse, assault, restraining or protection order etc. However, prosecutors can--and in this case--would be more than willing to press charges on the government's or state's behalf, since this is who they work for (the end).

Prosecutors do not work for anyone but the government itself and press charges against an individual, in the interest of society at large. And believe it or not all it takes is for a third party to either contact the police, or in some cases charge an individual with a crime, like in the case of sexual harassment. In any case, it's just something we need to look at, especially respecting the fact that prosecutors are the only law enforcement officials within the government who determines which defendant in court gets capital punishment (the death penalty) or not. Again it's no coincidence that brothers and sisters are disproportionately represented in the general population of prisons, death roe inmates, and those who receive capital punishment when prosecutors are 97.5% white male.

I appreciate the offer sister Destee! I feel honored that you think highly enough of me to extend this invitation. However, at the present time I must respectfully decline the offer, due to my previous experience with that pro-Black community I mentioned to you before. In short, and I have explained this to Mrron, I was completely naive and--perhaps even stupid--in thinking that pro-Black people were just as frank, honest, and sincere as I was about helping our people.

Yet I was completely wrong about this perspective, and consequently my frankness, honesty, and sincerity led to my banishment from this particular website. Some people who have been posters on Destee.com are people from that particular community, although I am not aware whether or not they're still active posters on Destee.com.

However, this experience was an epiphany for me dear sister, that there are some of us who are what I have termed "Black Extremists." For some of these individuals threatened to come to my place of work and kill me. I was quite taken aback by such responses, toward being honest and sincere. Thus, I no longer approach these forums from a pro-Black/Black Power perspective, but from the standpoint of maturation: I no longer personalize anything I say, nor do I offer any specific information about myself, which leads those within this particular circle knowing any more of who I am than what I will allow.

I love our people; this is something that I will not deny. Still there are some things respecting our people and being pro-Black and beholding in Black power that I do not love, nor respect, nor trust. There are schisms and fractions that are negative within the latter ideologies, which causes some in those "camps" to force our people into specific categories, for the categorizers' own benefit.

Sun Ship attempted to do this with me during my first time posting within this august forum. However, I refuse to be codified through someone else's categorizations and labeling: I am my own labeler, I tell you what I am and you either accept it or not, I am not what you claim, categorize, or label me to be. Now certainly sister I don't mean "you yourself," I'm just speaking generally.

Still I appreciate the offer, but I want you to please understand that I have to humbly decline the offer, and it is no disrespect to you or this superb website you have created, which in my opinion "tactically aids in our people's liberation." Nonetheless, only those who know me personally, and whom I trust in, can have the pleasure of seeing me, hearing my voice, and intimately knowing me in the capacity that I express myself upon these forums. Nevertheless, again I am deeply moved by your offer, but I do not wish for you to believe, think, or feel for a moment that this is a rejection of what your website is all about--because it is not. It's simply a full realization of my own maturation, respecting who I allow into my own personal space and circle of intimacy.
Brother NeterHeru ... i didn't know that 97.5% of prosecutors are white males, though i'm not really surprised, as it seems logical for them to keep a tight reign on that task. Actually, i don't know much about the legal system, except what i see on television, and they've surely not shared any of the information there, that you've shared here. It's really nice to have you with us, allowing us all to become more knowledgeable. I'll be looking forward to more, Mr. Criminal Justice Degree Holder! :love:

See, this is really wonderful! I never went to college, and so i don't have a degree in anything. My daughter is in the process of working on her PhD and it was soooo exciting being an undergraduate student with her. While i wasn't really there, i gained knowledge walking through the process with her, and learning. Now we are in graduate school ... who wooda thunk?!! ... :)

But there's no reason for me to limit myself to her experience and knowledge, as i'm honored that you'd be willing to share yours as well. So please, don't hesitate giving us more!

Thanks too for last night.

Much Love and Peace.

:heart:

Destee
 

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mrron said:
Destee, it's unfortunate that you still have an affinity for this obscure subject of slavery. You don't know anything about it. How dare you piggyback on the suffering of our ancestors. They helped to build the greatest country on earth. I deal with foreigners everday, who will do anything to come here and take advantage of this economy. Black Nationalism is about nothing but consolation for those who can't compete in this global economy. This is not the US of Slavery. That is history. Let's keep it there.
Brother MrRon ... you asked several questions of me, in your previous post, and i responded to them all. In turn, i asked you one, and you didn't even attempt to answer it. Instead, you respond by telling me to forget about slavery, and telling me what i don't know.

Do you tell your boss to forget 911? Cause they are saying never forget. Do you tell them to forget the so called jewish holocaust? Or are you just here, telling me, to forget my people and their pain?

Have you lost your whole mind?

The only reason i responded to you, was because you said i made you defensive. How can i make you anything? I did this by posting on a discussion forum? If so, then there is evidence that the problem is not with me, but with you. If you work for Homeland Security, or whatever, and you get put on the defensive, based on some text on a discussion forum, it's no wonder your military is all in Iraq killing innocent women and children, with no business being there. I guess your President is a little defensive too. Hmmm ... what is this ... massa got a cold, and you get the flu? You're sounding and looking just like them, a little trigger happy.

I'm through talking with you about this, as i won't continue to engage those who refuse to respond in the best of manners.

Last but not least, if you don't want to answer any questions, you should not ask any.

:heart:

Destee
 

mrron

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Destee, i don't know what question that you asked that I didn't answer, so please ask me again. I don't have anything to hide from you or anyone else. As to the other statements you made concerning Homeland Security and 911. Let me say this, terrorism still remains a major threat to all of us. The terrorist will kill you because you are American, black or whatever, that is why we are not going to forget 911 for now. There is no threat of enslavement, I don't know of anyone or any organization that is even remotely interested in it. I say forget about it because it is soaking up too much energy, and there is no potential for benefit from all of this whining. I know of Jews still living today who were victims of the holocaust, in fact, I once dated a jewish lady who was born in a concentration camp, you can't forget something that happened in your own lifetime. The Jews aren't acting retarded over the issue, they have still managed to build something for themselves in spite of it. There is still anti Jewish sentiment throughout the world also, so they have need to remember what has already happened in recent history. Too many of our people are wasting their valuable time trying to get paid for our ancestors suffering. Their suffering created a great big economic power that we have every right to share in. I am getting my just due by participating and not complaining. I think that our ancestors could better rest in peace, knowing that we got economic benefit from their labor.

I have nothing to do with Iraq, and I don't support it or this President.

Your use of the term massa only shows that you still have a slave mentality. And that explains a lot of other things.
 

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mrron said:
Destee, i don't know what question that you asked that I didn't answer, so please ask me again. I don't have anything to hide from you or anyone else. As to the other statements you made concerning Homeland Security and 911. Let me say this, terrorism still remains a major threat to all of us. The terrorist will kill you because you are American, black or whatever, that is why we are not going to forget 911 for now. There is no threat of enslavement, I don't know of anyone or any organization that is even remotely interested in it. I say forget about it because it is soaking up too much energy, and there is no potential for benefit from all of this whining. I know of Jews still living today who were victims of the holocaust, in fact, I once dated a jewish lady who was born in a concentration camp, you can't forget something that happened in your own lifetime. The Jews aren't acting retarded over the issue, they have still managed to build something for themselves in spite of it. There is still anti Jewish sentiment throughout the world also, so they have need to remember what has already happened in recent history. Too many of our people are wasting their valuable time trying to get paid for our ancestors suffering. Their suffering created a great big economic power that we have every right to share in. I am getting my just due by participating and not complaining. I think that our ancestors could better rest in peace, knowing that we got economic benefit from their labor.

I have nothing to do with Iraq, and I don't support it or this President.

Your use of the term massa only shows that you still have a slave mentality. And that explains a lot of other things.
Brother MrRon ... i'm glad you're able to glean something helpful from the words i use.

Again, this all started over you feeling defensive.

You obviously still are, and i hope you get over it real soon.

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Destee
 

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Destee, I went back and found the question you asked and I didn't answer, concerning what people continued to live with the people who enslaved them, after they got their freedom? I wish I knew the answer to that question, but I am no an historian either. In our case, many did leave and went back to Africa, where they weren't really welcome. Some went on to South America and the Caribbean, some left the south and went north. It's very difficult to say why those who left did so, and why the others stayed. I would have to surmise that since most of them were born here, they felt that they were at home. Actually many black soldiers fought in the civil war, and were credited with helping to win it, so they fought for the right to be here also.

As to me, I harbor no bitterness for that dark era. I have no intentions of leaving all of the things I worked hard for (houses, cars, pension, investments, money,family and friends etc.) to go to a place not yet named or established. I see no reason to do so either. I have many great white friends, in fact, my very oldest friend is white and attended college with me at the HBCU I attended. I have many close white friends on the job also, whom I trust to have my back, should the need arise. Yes! I am fully assembulated into this intregrated society. I rarely encountered any hostilities due to my race being what it is. So I don't feel that I am intimately connected with my captures. However, I do know what time it is, and what the adversaties might be under certain circumstances. I hope I've answered your question, in a polite manner. LOL
 

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