Jails / Prisons : Black People Working in Prisons

Destee

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Peace and Blessings Family,

As i watch these MSNBC prison documentaries, i see so many Black people working in them ... the overseers of the prisoners (slaves). It's us.

Now, i aint mad at no bodee who has to work and raise their Families, taking whatever job they can get. I understand this part, but can't help but look beyond that, to the historical parallel that is now before us.

They have us watching each other, and reporting to them, about us.

We all know that Black Men are overwhelmingly, disproportionately incarcerated.

I'd love to talk with a Sister or Brother that actually works in one of these maximum security prisons. If you are that person, or knows someone, that may be willing to join us in a class here ... sharing what it's really like inside ... please contact me!

If you are not willing to get on the mic and talk to us about it, please, just join and share in this thread. We don't have to depend entirely on MSNBC, or any other media outlet, when we are the ones inside, keeping watch over our Sisters and Brothers.

I know yall aren't probably really allowed to talk, tell stuff, so we'll respect that and only go as far as you're able.

:heart:

Destee
 

mrron

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Blacks working in prisons is a positive thing. Who else would you want to have mentor our lost young black men. Would you rather have white men do it? I have a step son who is currently in training to become a corrections officer. My former wife is a supervisory corrections officer of almost twenty years, and she is extremely proud of the fact that she does the work that she does, and have helped as many young black men as she has. I work in law enforcement also, and have done a lot for some our young black men. These men are in jail because they, in most instances, are not capable of living in society without being menaces to it. Even with all of the ones we now have in penal system, the black community is not safe, and there are very few examples of law abiding black males to set examples for other young black men to follow, without the incarceration option, the black community would be under marshall law.

The correctional officers job is not to oppress these young men, but to encourage them to learn to read and to learn a skill so that they can become productive and law abiding citizens. Unfortunately, many of these young men don't really want any help, and are hell bent on causing as much disruption to the general peace as possible. Those people are not deserving of any more consideration than they have been given already by the court system.

There are numerous programs available to these young men, to enable them to avoid the traps that landed them in trouble in the first place. There are opportunities for concerned people, like those on this site, to volunteer to help these young men by providing reading lessons to some, religious services, cultural lessons etc. It is mostly the uneducated and illiterate who end up there. Since our people are represented in disproportionate numbers, than it is high time that we do something about it ourselves, and stop seeing this as some kind of enslavement system. If you visit prisons in the mid west i.e., Iowa, Montana, Idaho, Arkansas etc., you will see very few black faces, but you will see the same attitudes and circumstances that bring about these results.

We need to do something about this now, it is our problem, largely the result of neglecting to educate our boys, to monitor their behavior and to give them reasons to be black and proud. Nothing will happen until we stop blaming the white man and start taking responsibility for our communites
 

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Destee said:
Peace and Blessings Family,

As i watch these MSNBC prison documentaries, i see so many Black people working in them ... the overseers of the prisoners (slaves). It's us.

Now, i aint mad at no bodee who has to work and raise their Families, taking whatever job they can get. I understand this part, but can't help but look beyond that, to the historical parallel that is now before us.

They have us watching each other, and reporting to them, about us.

We all know that Black Men are overwhelmingly, disproportionately incarcerated.

I'd love to talk with a Sister or Brother that actually works in one of these maximum security prisons. If you are that person, or knows someone, that may be willing to join us in a class here ... sharing what it's really like inside ... please contact me!

If you are not willing to get on the mic and talk to us about it, please, just join and share in this thread. We don't have to depend entirely on MSNBC, or any other media outlet, when we are the ones inside, keeping watch over our Sisters and Brothers.

I know yall aren't probably really allowed to talk, tell stuff, so we'll respect that and only go as far as you're able.

:heart:

Destee

Sis DESTEE..........

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'Cause I'M ALWAY'S

ROARIN.............

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roarin1

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mr ron said:
Blacks working in prisons is a positive thing. Who else would you want to have mentor our lost young black men. Would you rather have white men do it? I have a step son who is currently in training to become a corrections officer. My former wife is a supervisory corrections officer of almost twenty years, and she is extremely proud of the fact that she does the work that she does, and have helped as many young black men as she has. I work in law enforcement also, and have done a lot for some our young black men. These men are in jail because they, in most instances, are not capable of living in society without being menaces to it. Even with all of the ones we now have in penal system, the black community is not safe, and there are very few examples of law abiding black males to set examples for other young black men to follow, without the incarceration option, the black community would be under Marshall law.

The correctional officers job is not to oppress these young men, but to encourage them to learn to read and to learn a skill so that they can become productive and law abiding citizens. Unfortunately, many of these young men don't really want any help, and are hell bent on causing as much disruption to the general peace as possible. Those people are not deserving of any more consideration than they have been given already by the court system.

There are numerous programs available to these young men, to enable them to avoid the traps that landed them in trouble in the first place. There are opportunities for concerned people, like those on this site, to volunteer to help these young men by providing reading lessons to some, religious services, cultural lessons etc. It is mostly the uneducated and illiterate who end up there. Since our people are represented in disproportionate numbers, than it is high time that we do something about it ourselves, and stop seeing this as some kind of enslavement system. If you visit prisons in the mid west i.e., Iowa, Montana, Idaho, Arkansas etc., you will see very few black faces, but you will see the same attitudes and circumstances that bring about these results.

We need to do something about this now, it is our problem, largely the result of neglecting to educate our boys, to monitor their behavior and to give them reasons to be black and proud. Nothing will happen until we stop blaming the white man and start taking responsibility for our communities


I'M terrified of this entire missive. There isn't a single light-bulb or,
thought behind it.

What's wrong with a proud Afrikan Jegna over-seeing OUR Sons?
Are WE that afraid of SANKOFA? Do WE even know what that means?

If the knowledge is readily available then, why are'nt WE held to this standard?

Opposite of euro-beliefs, Black Men ARE real.

ROARIN..........
 

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It is well known,that correctional facilities don't rehabilitate,so chances of the workers becoming dehumanize themselves could and does happen.

Peace!
 

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It seems that Black folks just keeping FEELING BAD about all of these situations that impact our community. "FEELINGS" don't change anything! It's "ACTIONS" that change things. If we want things to change, enough of us are going to have to ACT differently and change things.

Seems that so many Black folks keep thinking that our problem is mainly outside of us, whereas the problem is mainly inside of us, as individuals and inside the black community. They couldn't exploit young black men in prison if the young men didn't go into prison in the FIRST place. This is like going into a hungry bear's cave and expecting it not to eat you. No, that bear is going to eat you EVERY time.

These young boys and young men need GROWN BLACK MEN to intervene in their lives or they are going to continue to go into the bear's cave. You can bet money on that and this is why people are pumping their money into prison building, operating, and maintenance businesses and buying shares in those companies. It's one of the most profitable investments.

By now, there could have been at least 5000 big and small groups of Black men that came together and ORGANIZED as a result of all of the men talking here on Destee's--to become the physical on-the-spot intervention that these young males need in a lot of communities across this country. Instead, so many Black men here just continue to TALK and point the finger at the hungry bear!! and complain that the bear is eating young black males as if this comes a shock. :lol: I've noticed that when the men are not pointing the finger at the bear, they usually try to blame Black women for the bear eating the boys.

When are the Black MEN in this country going to STEP UP? Black men need to start pointing the finger AT EACH OTHER and stop giving each other a pass on all of this!! Males control other males. You can't expect the bear not to eat the children and you cannot expect the women to control the males. Check it out. Males control other males in every society or group.
 

roarin1

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Hmmm......

So, for a Black Man to have been 'framed' is a complete and
total myth?

There are criminals in every 'race,' but the likelyhood of a
Black Man having been falsely imprisoned has never been an
issue?

Obviously if WE go to jail WE must be guilty and subject to being 'eaten.'

Of course the amerikan prison industrial complex cannot be
manipulated or, biased against the Black Community because
of it's perfection.

Maybe I should hurry and forward this information to MUMIA JAMAL
or ASSATA SHAKUR cause somebody needs to wake them up.

Hmmm....

ROARIN......
 

KWABENA

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Number 1 - The Predominant amount of Blacks locked up are someway/somehow relative to Socio-Political Agendas contrived by "you know who..." in this Nation.

Number Two: As I mentioned in my previous post, I stated:

The name of the exact Program/Corporation escapes my Mind at the moment, but there IS Program existing (forgot the name) whereby Prisoners work for $2.15/hr., while the Government is being paid (or paying) $1,000,000+!
I think the name is UNICORPS, but I will do more Research.

KD
 

mrron

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There is nothing wrong with unicor, which is a federal prisons program that produces goods, mostly for the government. Inmates are not forced to work in any programs, educational or otherwise. Those that volunteer to participate in something productive are rewarded with freedom once they are released from prison. That is because they have acquired a skill that will enable them to gain employment. While in prison, the government spends about $40,000 per year, per inmate. What is wrong with the inmate paying part of the cost of their incarceration? I pay enough at that rate, and so do you. Crime and incarceration is expensive. Some countiries require families of inmates to pay the cost. Maybe if we did that here, the problem would be solved. I watched the MSNBC series on this, most of the inmates participating in this programs were white and happy they volunteered to do so.

Keep in mind that we are talking about people who have committed the worst kinds of crimes against their own people. Rape, murder, serious assault, robbery of all kinds, drug dealing, failure to pay child support etc. These are not the pillars of the community. I've seen criminal records dating back to age 13 and younger consisting of ten pages or more. Many have already been in jail five and six times, without any attempt at rehabilitation. The prison system will not and cannot help a person who doesn't want it, that is why these programs are voluntary. As many as seventy percent will become career criminals which basically mean that will cycle in and out of jail. Some are not out even a month before they get arrested again.

The government cannot raise these kids, that is the parents responsibility. The government will lock your butt up once you have been given the typical ten chances to straighten up your behavior. Religion and philosophy is not what the government is about. The public outcry is to have these people taken off the streets, and that is why we have law enforcement.
 

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