Black People : Black or Brown - what is our color

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  1. ru2religious

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    This is my first little video and I had it set to grayscale so I hope its not to dramatic on the eyes.

    I want to talk about how we address ourselves and should there be a change? Ultimately we are going to have to make this a discussion because as we continue to evolve as a culture yet one thing is for sure - science agree that words carry frequencies which means they can change the patterns in life. If we carry negative connotations with words we use to address ourselves then we will continue to have negative effects or positive:

    Example: We call ourselves black but one of the key definitions to the word is: -> 11. marked by disaster or misfortune:

    If science is correct then what is going on with is as hard as it may seem to be to accept we are responsible for by not understanding the basic logical of word influences.

    The ancient Egyptians called themselves the 'black people (Khememu)' but their ancient definition of black is different from what is going on today. They called themselves black because of spiritual theologies. Yet on the walls they painted themselves brown-brownish red.



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    How about using "Melanin Enriched?" lol
     
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    ru2religious,

    Very impressive first time video, ru2religious, very impressive. The subject and content of your talk is pertinent for our people to consider. As you and I agree, we are the original Brown people. Often, I have found myself in various discussions, encouraging a paradigm shift reflecting true mental liberation for our people; count me in.

    Also, thanks for plugging us here at Destee.com with those thoughtful words...Peace In my brother friend, for real.

     
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    I really hope that this topic can be taken under serious consideration and not drift into the archives like so many other serious topics do. We have to define ourselves as a people because as of now we have been living off of definitions that have been given to us.

    The word 'Negro' is the Latin form of the English word 'Black'. We didn't call ourselves negro. They called us negro which is to say they called us black and now we say "say it loud, I'm black and I'm proud". We have taken what they have given to us and made it a theme withing our circles. We can never become who were are supposed to be until we accept who we are. We are not black and thus we are living, walking example of how a people (Spaniards, Europeans) can change the description of another people (The people of the Great Land) and literally make them believe that they are what they are not.

    We are heading into a new era and it is time that we redefine ourselves as to who and what we are. First we are not a color, a color is part of our description and that color is brown (all shades of brown) but that's based on a description of our physical appearance.

    We are not the descriptions of the word black:

    3. (sometimes initial capital letter)
    a. pertaining or belonging to any of the various populations characterized by dark skin pigmentation, specifically the dark-skinned peoples of Africa, Oceania, and Australia.
    b. African-American.
    4. soiled or stained with dirt: That shirt was black within an hour.
    5. gloomy; pessimistic; dismal: a black outlook.
    6. deliberately; harmful; inexcusable: a black lie.
    7. boding ill; sullen or hostile; threatening: black words; black looks.
    8. (of coffee or tea) without milk or cream.
    9. without any moral quality or goodness; evil; wicked: His black heart has concocted yet another black deed.
    10. indicating censure, disgrace, or liability to punishment: a black mark on one's record.
    11. marked by disaster or misfortune: black areas of drought; Black Friday.


    We are much better then that by design - Thus whatever we call ourselves from this point on out must be filled with nothing more then positive energies.

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    Brother RU2Religious ... i think this is sooooooo WONDERFUL !!! :toast:

    When I see a Member of the Family doing videos, I can't help but think of our Dear Darling Sister True, who really paved the way for most of us! It's such a great idea, and one of these days, yall are gonna see me posting my first video too!!! You and everyone else doing it, encourages me, Thank You!

    Now, as far as the topic goes, we've had quite a few discussions over the years, regarding what we call ourselves, what others call us, etc. We've been referred to, and refer to ourselves, in so many ways, that I think this will be a topic for a very long time. I'm glad that you've added your perspective to the mix, for you've presented some great information!

    PLUSSSSS ++++++ ... you're handsome, articulate, pointed, got it goin' on, EVERYTHING! ... :luvv: ... Woman Down ... :D

    Thank you for taking the time to share with us, and for the plug at the end ... :grouphug:

    Thank You Thank You Thank You! :bowdown: :bowdown: :bowdown:

    Love You!

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    Hotep!!!!

    Peace and Blessings to our beautiful queen -

    Thank you for the complements. Yes 'truetothecause' is my inspirations, all credit goes to our inventive sista. Having watched her video about a week ago, I knew she was on to something huge.

    This topic is one we have to take seriously - how we vibe as a people dictates a lot about who we've been and where we are going. I read a book not to long ago dealing with Native American astrology and what they wrote was as paraphrase - when a man gets sick we change his name and he becomes health again. The Jews who follow the Kabbalah teach the same exact message - so naturally on a scientific level I had to see if there was any validity to such actions and to my amazement there is much proof that words carry positive and negative charges.

    This sparked my curiosity about how we as a people are addressed because we are spoken of throughout the whole world. If the whole world is calling us black - my god!!! The damage that is being done to our people - how we've managed to keep it together after learning what I've learned is nothing short of miracles.

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    Brother RU2Religious

    I'm down with this change.
    :teach:Keep up the teaching!:teach:
     
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    Oh My Creator!!!!....hahahahaaha...

    How this video get over here on this thread and I ain't even see this when I did the video and upped it to the other thread....:em0200:

    That was cool.....and YA KNOW......meh grinning from ear to ear...:grin:


    Hey Ya!!!..."can WE talk:?:" :toast: Brother King RU2Religious....

    "Something is holding me back, is it because I'm Black":?: (Reggae Artist..name can't call now) With them using their definition of ME/WE the answer is Yes..cause that's what they do.
    and "Still I/WE Rise" (Maya Angelou)

    RE~Covery is a Process....Not an event

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    Response to Brown not Black

    Ru2religious, I totally agree with you about what you said in terms of African decent people calling themselves in essence what they are, shades of brown and not black.

    I have no problem though with the color black or being called black either, there are many positive things about the color black as well. All life starts from a very dark and black place, fermentation, which is equal to life, takes place in blackness, so I have no problem with black either. Then theres the soil that food grows from, it is different shades of dark brown, to near black.

    I do understand what you are saying because when African decent people allow themselves to be referred to as black, why are they in fact doing such? Is it because they really feel that they are black, or is it because they just settle for what white people have titled them to be? I think it would be the latter and in this case, all the negativety attached to black, that white people made up and put into their english dictionary's, would be the vibrations that African decent people allow themselves, without even realizing it, to carry the vibrations of.

    Yes, I agree with you. What you said about Mexicans is true, I have stood next to brown mexicans and standing next to them, one could not tell the difference, they were the same shade of brown as I, for which we both got a kick out of. Yes, Mexicans are leaving African decent people behind. I wonder what the vibrations of Yellow is cause thats what Asians call themselves and the Native Americans called themselves Red. ut oh, now a whole new can of worms done got opened up cause look what happend to the Native Americans, and they don't seem to be in a better situation in comparison to African Americans, other than the fact that they still have their culture but still, it's only about a handfull of them that still excist.


    I looked up brown on the web and this is some of the things I saw.


    This next one kind of confused me...





    http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&...&oi=glossary_definition&ct=title&ved=0CAoQkAE


    Any way, I can be down with calling my self brown, if that will be a more positive vibration but It's gonna be a tuffy getting African decent people to make that change particularly due to the fact that many African decent scholars and specialist, live, eat, and die by the word black, and so called black people being black.


    Astrologer4U
     
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