I've gone through the IR threads and I didn't exactly see what I wanted, so I'm starting a new one. Lena Horne. Eartha Kitt. Malcolm X. Maya Angelou. Pam Grier. Huey Newton. James Earl Jones. Richard Pryor. Bob Marley. Thurgood Marshall Angela Davis Amiri Baracka These black people are well respected ICONS in their respective careers of film, literature, comedy, politics, and black nationalism. Yet they were all involved in IR's at some point, and many of them married or had long term relationships with white people or non-blacks. I don't understand how many of you can propose to down IR's and hate them, say they are the source of so much trouble with black identity and racial divisions, and yet embrace many of the black people who had relationships like that. THAT seems contrary or hypocritical to me. I was cited as being contrary or hypocritical when I addressed that I was (more or less) OK with IR's, would even consider one, yet had trouble with someone (anyone) losing their 'blackness' or 'black consciousness' in the process or pursuit of an IR. It wasn't the IR that bugged me so much - it was whether or not you were going to remain in the interest, spirit, and struggle of black people and their intended interest. Those black people named above, and many more are apparently respected for doing just that - remaining true and faithful to the cause and love of black people and black interest... in spite of(?) being with, dating, or married to white folks and non-blacks. What makes them different and how? How do you reconcile your respect for these black icons while glossing over the fact that many were indeed in interracial relationships? And how come you think others can't be like that or do that?