Black Muslims : Black Muslims in America 6 Centuries Before Columbus...

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    Much has become known about the explorer Columbus through the strenuous efforts of native people eager to tell their story. Five hundred years after he washed up on the shores of San Salvador, it has become clear that Columbus stumbled upon not only Indians, but Muslims as well. Muslims began traveling to the Caribbean six centuries before European contact was made (over 1,100 years ago). Columbus and early Spanish and Portuguese explorers were able to voyage across the Atlantic (a distance of 1,500 miles) due to Muslim geographical and navigational information and maps made by Muslim traders, in particular Al-Masudis drawings (d. 957 CE). Vasco da Gama consulted with Ahmad Ibn Majid on the African Western coast before setting out into the Atlantic. Ibn Majid was the worlds expert on navigation in the Indian Ocean, the Persian Gulf, the Red Sea, the Sea of Southern China and the waters around the West Indies.As early as 889 CE, a Muslim navigator, Kashkhash ibn Saeed ibn Aswad, from Cordoba Spain, crossed the Atlantic and returned with wonderful treasures. In February 999 CE, Ibn Farukh landed in Gando (Great Canary Islands), visited King Guanariga, and continued westwards where he saw and named two islands, Capraria and Pluitana, he arrived back in Spain in May.

    The famous Arab Geographer Al Sharif al-Idrisi (1097-1155) wrote in The Geography of Al-Idrisi: A group of seafarers (from North Africa) sailed into the sea of Darkness and Fog (The Atlantic Ocean) from Lisbon (Portugal) in order to discover what was in it, and to what extent were its limits�. They finally reached an island that had people and cultivation. On the fourth day a translator came speaking the Arabic language!

    When Mansa Musa the world-renowned Mandinka monarch of the West African Islamic Empire of Mali, was enroute to Makkah on his famous Hajj in 1324, he informed the scholars of Cairo that his brother, King Abubakari II, had undertaken two expeditions into the Atlantic Ocean. When the king did not return to Timbuktoo from the second voyage of 1311, Mansa Musa became ruler of the Empire.The Mandinkas used the closest land base to West Africa, Brazil, as the center for their exploration of the Americas. They traveled along rivers through the dense jungles of South America into North America.

    In a document written in 1754 a Spanish banderista (land pirate) wrote of well laid-out cities in and around Minas Geraes in the interior of Brazil with suburb stone and mortar buildings, obelisks and statues. The jungle has reclaimed many of these Mandinka cities, but the early Spanish explorers saw a large number of them. The Muslims left a legacy of writing among the natives of the area, especially on the Koaty Islands of Lake Titicaca, where the ideograms are identical to the Mandinka script.Even as far as the Pacific Ocean coast of South America, near Ylo, Mandinka Muslim writings have been found and translated: man - To pursue worship, to mature and become matter without life. Man pursues a cavernous place -(i.e. the grave).Anthropologists have proven that the Mandinkas under Mansa Musa's instructions explored many parts of North America via the Mississippi and other river systems.

    http://blacksahaba.blogspot.com/2009/01/black-muslims-in-america-6-centuries.html
     
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    More on this subject from Brother Abdullah Hakim Quick...A Muslim and Black Historian...

     
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    There seems to be a conspiracy here, in my assumption,
    that the Vatican or some Portugese mafia have these artifacts and evidence of this discovery locked up somewhere away and hidden from sister and brother in the Favelas of Brazil, more Black folks then in the United States.

    Thank you a thousand times for this, and this is something, I had heard of from a Mali shopkeeper I have know for years. His English is not that good but the man is very upstanding, so I hada chill of intellectual thrill when he told me about this.

    Please , please , please; post and share all references and resources you have on this important information to every single one of us that rest our heads to sleep in North and South America, and everyone of African descent on the planet
     
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    Are you aware of the African descendants of the Jamaican Maroons who claim descent from the Ghanaian Muslim Mariners who supposedly accompanied Columbus on his voyages? If their claims are true then can we honestly say that he "stumbled upon" the New World?
     
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    If you want to keep something away from a European, say that it's the truth.

    Europeans lie. Yup. Luckily, Europeans can not make a good lie. They do not admit that the Moors conquered the Iberian Peninsula for seven-hundred years until you twist their arms. However, in that admission, the truth becomes obvious as to why Portugal and Spain were the first to trade slaves: the Moors (Blacks) had the technology.

    Columbus didn't discover America. West Africans have frequented America. It's sad that this is news to Black folk.
     
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    If you want to keep something from a European, say that it's the truth.

    Europeans lie. Yup. Luckily, Europeans can not make a good lie. They do not admit that the Moors conquered the Iberian Peninsula for seven-hundred years until you twist their arms. However, in that admission, the truth becomes obvious as to why Portugal and Spain were the first to trade slaves: the Moors (Blacks) had the technology.

    Columbus didn't discover America. West Africans have frequented America. It's sad that this is news to Black folk.
     
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    Native Americans and Islam

    Contents

    Introduction

    There are numerous accounts of Muslims who were integrated within Native Indian tribes pre Columbus, of Turkic, Moorish and African Muslims leaving colonies to live amongst the Native Indians. There are also historical letters and colonial advertisements describing the threat to the colonies of African Muslim Slaves fleeing and integrating with the Native American Indians. There is also the case of Mahomet Weyonomonof the Mohegan tribe, who arrived in Britain in 1736 CE (1148 AH) [1]century to discuss the land grabs by the British.
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    Main article: Muslims First Journey To America
    • in the 12th century Al-Idrisi reported in Nuzhat Al-Mushtaq Fi Ikhtiraq Al-Afaq (Excursion of the Longing One in Crossing Horizons), that a group of eight Muslim sailors from North Africa sailed west of Lisbon. After sailing west for more than 31 days, they landed on what must have been an island in the Caribbean. The intrepid explorers were initially imprisoned by Indians but were later released when a translator appeared who spoke Arabic [2]
    • 1310 CE (709 AH) Sultan Abu Bakari of the Mandinka kingdom of Mali sent two different fleets of ships, totalling 2,400 ships, sailing west from Africa. The fleets never returned to Africa.
    There are also numerous reports of 'black skinned' Indians. For example in Honduras Columbus reported seeing Black skinned Indians. Giles Cauvet's 'Les Berberes de l'Amerique' reported that a pre-Columbian tribe in Honduras was know as the Almamys a corruption of the Mandinka word for the Arabic Imam.
    American Treaties and laws with American Muslims

    Several colonial advertisements made direct reference to the integration of African Americans into the Native American communities. For example ..ran off with his Indian wife... had kin among the Indians .. part Indian and speaks their language good. [3]
    In South Carolina, colonists became so concerned about the possible threat posed by the mixed African and Indian population that was arising as runaway Africans escaped to the Indians that they passed a new law in 1725 CE (1137 AH). This law stipulated a fine of 200 pounds on anyone who even brought a slave to the frontier regions of the colony. In 1751 CE (1164 AH) the colony of South Carolina found it necessary to issue another law, warning that having Africans in proximity to Indians was deemed detrimental to the security of the colony.
    In 1726 CE (1138 AH) the British governor of colonial New York exacted a promise from the Iroquois Indians to return all runaway slaves who had joined up with them. This same promise was extracted from the Huron Indians in 1764 CE (1177 AH) and from the Delaware Indians in 1765 CE (1178 AH). Despite their promises, no escaped slaves were ever returned by these tribes, who continued to provide a safe and secure home for escaped slaves.
    And finally a census was undertaken of the Cherokee in 1835 CE (1250 AH) where fully 10% were of African descent [4]
    http://muslimwiki.com/mw/index.php/Native_Americans_and_Islam

    Cultural dress

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    Turbaned cherokee
    In the old books on Cherokee clothing up until the time of 1832, you will see the men wearing turbans and the women wearing long head coverings
     
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    Introduction

    Muslims First Journey To America 1312 CE (711 AH)
    Christopher Columbus 1492 CE (897 AH)
    Estevanico 1538 CE (944 AH)
    Melungeons 1600 CE (1008 AH)
    Blackamoor 1639 CE (1048 AH)
    Mahomet Weyonomon 1708 CE (1119 AH)
    Lamine Jay 1730 CE (1142 AH)
    Job Ben Solomon Jallo 1730 CE (1142 AH)
    Abel Conder 1753 CE (1166 AH)
    Kunta Kinte 1767 CE (1180 AH)
    Peter Saleem 1775 CE (1188 AH)
    Ibrahim Abd ar-Rahman 1788 CE (1202 AH)
    Yusef Ben Ali 1790 CE (1204 AH)
    Salih Bilali 1803 CE (1217 AH)
    Yarrow Mamout 1807 CE (1221 AH)
    Lamine Kebe 1835 CE (1250 AH)
    There are numerous historical written accounts of Muslims from Africa and from Spain travelling to lands across the Atlantic Ocean as part of geographical explorations from as early as 889 CE (275 AH). At this period Muslims dominated the sea routes, and were experienced ship builders[citation needed]
    Khashkash from Cortobas exploration

    A Muslim historian and geographer Abu Hassan Ali ibn Al-Hussain al-Masudi 871 CE (257 AH) - 957 CE (345 AH) wrote in his book Muruj adh-dhahab wa maadin aljawhar (The meadows of gold and quarries of jewels) that during the rule of the Muslim caliph of Al-Andalus Abdullah Ibn Mohammad, a Muslim navigator, Khashkhash Ibn Saeed Ibn Aswad, from Cortoba, Spain sailed from Delba (Palos) in 889 CE (275 AH), crossed the Atlantic, reached an unknown territory (ard majhoola) and returned with fabulous treasures. In Al-Masudi's map of the world there is a large area in the ocean of darkness and fog which he referred to as the unknown territory [1]
    Sultan of Mali exploration

    There are two accounts confirming the sultans exploration to a large land mass found whilst crossing the atlantic.
    • In his book Massaalik al-absaar fi mamaalik al-amsaar(the pathway of sight in the provinces of the kingdoms) the Muslim Historian Chihab Ad-Dine Abu Abbas Ahmad bin Fadhl al Umari (1300 CE (699 AH) - 1384 CE (785 AH)) describes in detail the geographical exploration on the other side of the atlantic by the Sultan of Mali Abu Bakari I [2]
    References

    1. AGHA HAKIM, AL-MIRZA Riyaadh Al-Ulama(Arabic),Vol.2 P.386/Vol.4 P.175
    2. AL-ASFAHANI, AR-RAGHIB Adharea Ila Makarim Ash-Shia,Vol.16,P.343
    3. CAUVET, GILES Les Berbers de L'Amerique,Paris 1912,P.100-101
    http://muslimwiki.com/mw/index.php/Muslims_First_Journey_To_America
     
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    Pre-Columbian Muslims in the Americas

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    by Dr. Youssef Mroueh

    Following article was first published byThe As-Sunnah Foundation of America in 1996 and prepared by Preparatory Committee for International Festivals to celebrate the millennium of the Muslims arrival to the Americas (996-1996 CE).

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    Introduction


    Numerous evidence suggests that Muslims from Spain and West Africa arrived to the Americas at least five centuries before Columbus. It is recorded, for example, that in the mid-tenth century, during the rule of the Ummayyed Caliph Abdul-Rahman III (929-961 CE), Muslims of African origin sailed westward from the Spanish port of DELBA (Palos) into the "Ocean of darkness and fog". They returned after a long absence with much booty from a "strange and curious land". It is evident that people of Muslim origin are known to have accompanied Columbus and subsequent Spanish explorers to the New World.

    The last Muslim stronghold in Spain, Granada, fell to the Christians in 1492 CE, just before the Spanish inquisition was launched. To escape persecution, many non-Christians fled or embraced Catholicism. At least two documents imply the presence of Muslims in Spanish America before 1550 CE. Despite the fact that a decree issued in 1539 CE by Charles V, king of Spain, forbade the grandsons of Muslims who had been burned at the stake to migrate to the West Indies. This decree was ratified in 1543 CE, and an order for the expulsion of all Muslims from overseas Spanish territories was subsequently published. Many references on the Muslim arrival to Americas are available. They are summarized in the following:

    http://www.mediamonitors.net/youssefmroueh1.html#fn07
     
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