Brother's Only Chat : Black men Unite / To my destee brothers

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  1. $$RICH$$

    $$RICH$$ Lyon King Admin. STAFF

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    As we rest inside a community where different thinking i've seen us
    move in the direction to depart then join hands as brothers .

    What can be done to bring us moreso together as brothers
    is it a myth that we just can't get alone or because of our different beliefs
    or is it that we don't want to follow anothers lead ?

    Whereas i notice how we continue to divide ourselves through tempers / egos
    and such or from how we view there concept and perception without looking
    at the bigger picture as a whole beyond individualism.

    Here we are sharing this same space yet we as men and brothers are so apart
    from united ways from finding faults / pointing fingers / inflicting envy .

    My brothers now is our time to build ourselves up, unite our brotherhood
    stand behind each others thoughts and views far beyond beliefs and our
    individualism but using the keen eye to know the differents , teach the
    less knowledgable one to make them stronger before casting them out as
    a misfit or ignorant , Don't Ignore them help them, help me !
    Let us talk about this brotherhood at Destee's how we can solve these
    lines between us and promote a fellowship of us , bring black men together
    without the fighting / fussing and downing a brother , it's true some of us
    are far advanced in areas whereas some of us are not , working together
    can uplift us all and spread outside this community to the community which
    you live before long brotherhood would reach nation wide , but the task will
    not be a easy ride, there will be many challenges faced but through devotion
    and compassion to unite brotherly , we have to stop blamin and start claimin.

    Individualism i know play an important role but by spreading it brings about
    wholesom that's unification , let's be more universal in a combonation of
    thinking , this will allow us all to identify ourselves and the needs to find a
    solution to many of our pit falls that keep us divided into individuals voice
    instead of the mighty fist of Voices Theirs proof that we all belong
    but under different trees or ballons of thinking and views

    Help me out brothers let's look at this question at hand and from your own
    perspective how do you personally defined it.
    Question:
    Between beliefs and disagreement to an issue how would you bring unity
    and understanding that will keep us moving upward without anger/ fighting
    that will dismember the common bond between two brothers !?


    It may sound backwards, but definding it in your own words would help
    bring us closer together from the thinking pattern that allow the next brother
    to understand why you say and do what you do , it also will kill the arguing
    between us by knowing at that point knowledgable and wisdomized can be
    used to help teach or show that person or brother , i say this to say i myself
    has followed some brothers here who share mindful thoughts and views even
    at times i see them in heated debates and fighting with words i hold them
    high in Respect for as i read them they are teaching me without knowing it
    in the area where i'm not ignorant at, but less knowledgable at .

    See right there brought brotherhood closer even if i don't inneract with them
    they have brought me closer in brotherhood not because i think they right
    i took time to understand what they saying and matched it to my view and
    came out with my solutional accessment where i now can give a respectable
    assertion to the subject/issue or question , these are the line which we have
    to use to make debates enlightful instead of arguemental that will make us
    stronger in brotherhood .

    I wanna talk to my brother, share with my brothers, find that peace in my
    brothers and know we all working on the same goal to free ourselves from
    poverty / depression and ease the deep struggle that has been inflicked upon
    us as people work on solution to problems we face and have to deal with
    but first we have to bring forth a united way and form a better brotherhood

    come share and talk with me , join me to bring this tail spin of division to an
    end , let's join forces as brothers and teach each other and for once share
    laughter instead of war upon ourselves

    Destee's Community brotherhood doors are open !!
     
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    kemetkind Well-Known Member MEMBER

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    Good post Brother Rich.

    I don't have an answer to your question on how to maintain unity amongst disagreement, at least nothing that hasn't been stated before.

    I think we should try to change the culture of the site with regards to dialogue between brothers, and take it upon ourselves to check ANY discussion between us when it BEGINS to turn personal, not after the damage is done.

    I notice this happens with regard to other issues. IR discussions get checked pronto because we're all tired of them. If you come on here hating on black people you get checked.

    We (brothers) should check each other just the same when we've lowered an exchange from discussion or debate down to destructive argueing.

    If one hasn't mastered the art of expressing opinions without attacking others he should be encouraged to do so....much more forcefully than we are doing now, and without regard to whether we happen to agree with the attackers opinions.
     
  3. $$RICH$$

    $$RICH$$ Lyon King Admin. STAFF

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    Thank you brother Kemetkind for responding while you have no answers
    you have provided information useful to Brothering us by looking
    deeper at threads between brothers bringing them here to discuss
    the issues and sharing different views of solutions to resolve things

    We have to vast ourselves from the personal act to a joint act as
    brothers , you are right and on point i agree we have to tackle the
    problem before it get out of hand , so when we see this don't sit back
    and watch but step in and grap your brother's hand help smooth the lumps
    this how we can stop the argueing and bond closer in brotherhood

    I can't agree more we are moreso tired of the IR talk here that has taken
    much of our time and focus off us to better our unity we'll let the mods
    handle those things and end that disruption , as we focus on us as men
    we have to check ourselves watch what we say and respect each other.

    Let's look deeper into DISAGREEMENTS
    to disagree don't mean to prove them wrong or argue how right you are
    but look at both sides of the matter surely in each statement you can
    fine the reason , and render self from inflicting into judgemental / argueing
    this maybe where one is weak at on that topic , right away allow self to
    try and teach one what's right through windows of reality and truth cause
    we have some brothers here who are very advanced in subjects

    Every man's opinion is worthy to listen too , disagreeing don't mean fight
    just share why you disagree and what you feel or know is right this will
    allow the brother or brothers to view both sides and match them with there
    own view of it then we can defined to an solution by using understanding
    why both sides say this or that !

    What you have added has open my mind up more as i study the facts
    of disagreement and a common solution thank you brother kemetkind

    keep talking to me, keep the communication line open
    as we BROTHERHOOD ourselves into one whole at destee's

    where are the men at ???
    come talk to me in brotherhooding .
     
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    $$RICH$$ Lyon King Admin. STAFF

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    Interesting that brother don't want to talk and build brotherhood !
     
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    How hard is it for us men to talk and find self love and unity to Brotherhood ?
     
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    My apologies for missing this thread earlier......

    Count me in. The biggest problem I have sometimes with Brotherhoods with Black men, is that we are easily compromised, by the presence of a woman.

    Sisters will often stand in solidarity, when it comes to their perspectives on things, especially regarding their thoughts/ideas on men.

    However, at the mere presence of a woman, many Brothers will "changed their tune", and even leave their Brethren "to the wolves" if it means having to compromise (what he thinks is) his "chance" with that woman.

    I've seen that all too many times--even on here.

    As METHOD MAN said:

    "Am I my Brother's Keeper? There's no need to ask........"

    Let's represent one another in sincerity.

    PEACE
     
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    Great post RICH...your level of humility is always encouraging.
    I agree. There needs to be a bit more tolerance between us here online and in the streets. It's like sometimes I see we will let a white boy off the hook, but will shoot the brother for some small slight.

    I've seen brothers here just go off on someone just because of differences in philosophy or viewpoint. Sometimes, we need to step back, allow the brother his beliefs and just keep it moving. I try to practice that here and in the streets.

    Overall, we have to consider that we for centuries have been taught to hate other black men. To not to trust black men. Until we beat off this yoke of conditioning, we will continue to treat each other badly.

    I really think this should be a topic of discussion for all of us.
     
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    SAMURE136..I agree and understand this why it's such a need to
    brotherhood and help the weak links get stronger and pose
    a better mindset , we now going to focus on us as brothers
    let's talk moreso beyond what sistas would say this where our
    strong will comes to play . Man I truely Thank you for willing to
    join forces of brotherhood , we have to do this and bring ourselves
    to a unity before we can truely get our sistas to understand us
    better and fully .

    abstract219... Yes you are correct where i agree that tolerance
    between us as men are needed more now then ever , stop blasting
    your brother and try to understand his views and why he think that way
    this will help enlighten us all , we have to raise the bars and step above
    the belief but also respect it to form a better Brotherhood, where we can
    share our common goals / faults / to recondition ourselves as men and
    brothers , if we can't trust our brother who can we trust this has been a
    major void , don't feel one is ignorant but un-aware of what's true we
    have come up in a society that has brainwashed us all to thinking against
    one another but we also have made some changes with knowledge left
    before us to learn and the wisdom to spread it all , it will never be an easy
    task when so many of us has been programed ...

    Before going into fight mold , to set to argue an issue ask why one think
    it's right or betterment check out the viewpoint of it and match it with
    your own and come back to express your findings talk about it and keep
    the bonding of lovin thy brother in mind .

    I truely thank you for speaking out, if we all keep the communication line
    open and try to reason by seeking solutions / share laughter / pain on a
    daily we can bond a brotherhood like never before, let us come together
    guys and talk moreso on a daily about things to better ourselves and the
    problems we deal with and listen when the next brother have a solution
    for it or have something to share .......let's get focus !

    Keep talking i see improvement already this thread is not a one hit
    wonder but a life time discussion for DESTEE.COM BROTHERHOOD

    Again thankz guys
    your Brother in da hood
     
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    it is hard for me to cooperate

    through out my life i have solved my issues with brothers by being a lone wolf.
    i saw myself as an alpha male and every other brother as a rival.
    i was challenged by M. Kerenga to join some where and cooperate. that is why i joined Destee in the first place.
    i have actually spent my time as a member learning how NOT to fight.

    so Rich is correct. we got to learn how to trust each other and to live up to that trust we are granted.
    this can be a great resource for the younger cats to get knowledge from. we got to get along.
     
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    What i love most is the honesty of why we are the way we are as men
    I too had a deep trust thing going on where i didn't trust not only brothers
    but everybody outside my own space which had me lock in individualism

    but at the same time i saw how we was falling apart dividing from the african way
    i knew then if there was going to be a change i had to make it first to understand
    my brothers to tolerated them .

    I too have use this way to solve many issues but i also found that talking to another
    brother on it can enlight me even more after i have the pleasure to see it from a
    different prespective , i also learn to be open helps release what's held inside so i don't
    act out on my own people ....I've notice many and from that i've seen how you handle
    many issues Bro James but know you not out there alone there is somewhere brothers
    willing and with you if you trust in them moreso then just giving trust which is a hard
    task for many of us , I use judgement from my own feelings and by what a brother say
    his action and what he express that help me know if they can be trusted and how real
    that are to the cause of what we face daily and the solution was to come together in
    a peaceful bond to unify BROTHERHOOD as men in one community , Respecting our
    brothers mean respecting ourselves as men and the teaching from experiences / facts
    and the love to see the next brother rise this will be good infomation for not only the
    youth but men who was lacking such knowledge all this brotherhood would be an great
    exhibit too all . It's a must that we Brotherhood in peace as men.
    Bro.James Thanks for sharing and dropping your voice to this cause
    I look forward to hearing more from you as we bond here we all trust worthy
    just been sailing in different ships time we ride the tides together and make a change.

    Keep talking guys we going in the right direction now i see some light
    keep the communication line open to discuss our inner selves and what we
    see or feel and what can continue to bring us together as men and brothers
    face our faults and find solutions.....

    DESTEE.COM BROTHERHOOD
     
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