Brother Pan ... this is a separate discussion, that you've made specific comments within, that i'm addressing and you're avoiding.
Okay ... you can avoid my probing commentary regarding the positions you've demonstrated in this thread (and its Sister thread), by sending me to another thread.
Another vote i suppose for simultaneous stuff ... threads this time though ... okay.
You win ... you've wore me out!
Love You!
Destee
I suspect you responded before I edited my post to add this:
Destee if you want to shame black men into taking care of their children....feel free. Shame to your hearts content, and know that you are in good company. There are no shortage of magazine articles, TV specials, radio shows, and internet forums devoted to shaming black men for not taking care of their children. President Obama dedicated his father's day speech during his campaign to shame black men into taking care of their kids....Black men are no good....Black Men, stop acting like BOYS and be MEN....black men this and black men that....Now let me ask you. How has that been working out? Shame is an ineffective tactic to get black men who aren't taking care of their kids to do so, because those who aren't taking care of their kids often can care less.
Now if you are talking about the other end of the coin. Black men who are taking care of their children...better yet those who take care of the children and their mothers (black men like myself). It is not shame which caused us to do so either, rather a sense of responsibility which was instilled in us when we ourselves were children. This responsibility is something our "deadbeat counterparts" lack, and in the majority of cases they lacked it before they got their baby mommas pregnant to begin with. Addressing men and women together is not a way to let one gender off the hook at the expense of there other. Quite the contrary, the only way to correct what is undeniably damaged within the majority of families in our communities is to address both men and women simultaneously.
If that doesn't sufficiently answer your question, then let me put it another way. I think "shaming" a deadbeat dad (Mookie as brother Kem calls them) for not taking care of their children is as productive and effective as trying to "shame" a Klansman for being racist! Now at the risk of repeating myself.....if you want to try another approach this situation, I've provided it:
http://destee.com/forums/showthread.php?t=62158