Black Relationships : Black Male/Female Inequality

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  1. Omowale Jabali

    Omowale Jabali The Cosmic Journeyman PREMIUM MEMBER

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    In my studies of pre-Colonial African societies I find that the majority of societies were basically matrilinial. Patrilinial societies seem to have developed as outside influeces, such as Islam, changed the internal dynamic of pre-colonial Africa. As Europeans invaded and established forts and missionaries, many African families were destroyed and an imbalance occured as women and men were brutalized and subjected to not only the slave trade but a forced Christian patriarchy as missionaries developed settlements in Africa.

    So this is what I am contemplating. To what degree does a "natural order" occur in present "Black America" where most households in the Black community are headed by women? Is this the "natural order of things" since our ancestral roots are basically matrilinial?

    Sometimes it just seems to me that a lot of debate concerning the lack of available black men which often devoloves into negative stereotyping lacks perspective of how our ancestors lived and organized their societies before African colonization.

    More to the point, it seems as if many of us ourselves have developed a mindset which seeks to affirm and reinfore the very same system of patriarchy which was responsible for the destruction of our very own civilizations.

    Peace!
     
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    unlearning behavior

    Peace and Great topic!

    Some of us, after studying pre-Colonial Africa, develop a desire to return to the matrilineal society or matrilineal ideal within our homes. However, we struggle with it because we don’t know how to put this information into practice.


    Also, old habits die hard. It’s harder to unlearn something (patriarchal ideals) than to learn it for the first time. People who are trying to live like this are definitely swimming upstream in that this type of thinking and acting is not heavily promoted in our community. I see that a lot of our women are natural born leaders and will try to suppress this within them in order to be in line with what is taught within our community.
     
  3. Corvo

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    I don't have a problem with it.

    I grew up in a single parent family. Mi mom did a great job of it!

    In P.R. the woman controls the household! even though the man is the figurehead.
     
  4. Omowale Jabali

    Omowale Jabali The Cosmic Journeyman PREMIUM MEMBER

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    Political Anarchy and Matriarchy in Africa

    Political instability in Africa can lead to considerable abuse of women. When the breakdown results in violence, it can include gang sexual abuse and physical mutilation. The recent political meltdown in Guinea-Conakry accompanied by open-air public rapes is a case in point. Conversely, political instability can have a silver-lining in gender relations. Such instability can create fluidity in the sexual division of labour. As men are killed in the upheaval, some women are forced to take control and forms of matriarchy emerge. Great precedents in upward mobility have been set by African women against backgrounds of political meltdowns.

    Source (for full text)
    http://allafrica.com/stories/200912070503.html
     
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    warriorprincess Well-Known Member MEMBER

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    Peace Corvo,
    Is this your experience? Did you grow up in PR?

    In what way does the woman control the household? Any examples?

    What does it mean that the man is the figure head?
     
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    We will agree to disagree that most African civilizations were matriarchal






















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  7. Omowale Jabali

    Omowale Jabali The Cosmic Journeyman PREMIUM MEMBER

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    No problem but I need to ask if you can share information concerning what societies were basically patrilineal in pre-colonial Africa that were not influenced by Christianity of Islam? I specially used C.A. Diop as a reference and cannot find another African historian who has done more extensive work in this area.
     
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    Quotes by Mama Zogbe

    “Mami Wata as an ancient African deity of Isis, and the divine manifestation of the feminine principal, is the master of all magical, divinatory, prophetic, philosophical and religious systems in ancient Africa. There is no indigenous spiritual system that currently exist in Africa that is separate from Mami Wata.”



    “Unlike her European counterpart, Black women were not originally born under the yoke of patriarchy. During ancient times, all of Africa was matriarchal; achieving high levels of civilization. The religious systems imposed on black women (and men) today, are merely a corrupted version stemming from the overthrow of the spiritual and political kingdoms that their ancient mothers built and established throughout the entire ancient world. As the birthright of the African people,its logos (divine truths) were subsequently disseminated as their gift to the entire world.”



    Conversely, under African patriarchy, her temples were usurped, her priestesses were chased from the land or subjugated, and her original logos (spiritual truths) were hopelessly corrupted. In ancient Egypt, her images were destroyed and replaced with colossal monuments erected to the great pharaohs celebrating the rise of patriarchy and its aggressive military expansions. In her place, diminutive statues were erected depicting the queen mothers (Mama-Isis/Sibyls) as minor figures. A deliberate act of sacrilege to symbolized her final subjugation; and meant as an insult celebrating her global spiritual decline."
     
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