Black People Politics : Black Incarceration hasn’t been this low in a generation

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  1. Clyde C Coger Jr

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    In the Spirit of the Obama Administration,



    Black Incarceration hasn’t been this low in a generation



    At the end of 2014, the African American male imprisonment rate had dropped to a level not seen since early 1993. The change for African American women is even more marked, with the 2014 imprisonment rate being the lowest point in the quarter-century of data available. It can’t be overemphasized that these are trends unique to blacks rather than being part of a broader pattern of de-incarceration: The white imprisonment rate has been rising rather than falling ...


    https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...-hasnt-been-this-low-in-a-generation/?ref=yfp

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    (Rhonda Oaks/The Daily News via AP)


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    Very interesting article, Bro. Clyde and thank you for posting it. This should garner a very important discussion.

    If one is to believe the data that shows a decline in the incarceration rate of AA men and women in the last decade, that is good news, when you are looking at AAs alone, as a group.

    However, comparatively speaking, in spite of the decline in numbers, let's look at whether AAs still remain to be the most likely of all Americans to be incarcerated and let's look at the length of their sentences, compared to other racial/ethnic groups. Not as many being incarcerated today but still enough for AAs to be the highest number in prison compared to their percentage of representation in the overall population?

    Also, what can the researchers claim to be the reason for the decline in numbers? Suddenly justice is blind?
     
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    The author of the article . . .

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    Keith Humphries, Psychiatrist

    Research Interests
    Federal mental health and drug policies; veterans' health care; consumer-intensive health management programs; addictive disorders; differences between treatment research subjects and real-world patients.

    Bio
    Keith Humphreys is a Professor and the Section Director for Mental Health Policy in the Department of Psychiatry and Behavioral Sciences at Stanford University. He is also a Senior Research Career Scientist at the VA Health Services Research Center in Palo Alto and an Honorary Professor of Psychiatry at the Institute of Psychiatry, King's College, London. His research addresses the prevention and treatment of addictive disorders, the formation of public policy and the extent to which subjects in medical research differ from patients seen in everyday clinical practice.

    For his work in the multinational humanitarian effort to rebuild the psychiatric care system of Iraq and in the national redesign of the VA health system's mental health services for Iraq war veterans, he won the 2009 American Psychological Association Award for Distinguished Contribution to the Public Interest. He and the authors of "Drug Policy and the Public Good" won the 2010 British Medical Association's Award for Public Health Book of the Year.

    Dr. Humphreys has been extensively involved in the formation of public policy, having served as a member of the White House Commission on Drug Free Communities, the VA National Mental Health Task Force, and the National Advisory Council of the U.S. Substance Abuse and Mental Health Services Administration. During the Obama Administration, he spent a sabbatical year as Senior Policy Advisor at the White House Office of National Drug Control Policy. He has also testified on numerous occasions in Parliament and advises multiple government agencies in the U.K.

    I looked the author up because of this statement he made in the article in the OP:

    "It can be emotionally and intellectually challenging to break free from long-held assumptions, but there can be benefits as well. The high rate of black incarceration remains a horribly destructive social problem. Yet somehow the juggernaut reversed direction 15 years ago. Analyzing how and why that happened could point the way to further reform, but of course this can happen only if the progress is acknowledged in the first place. Also, the fuel of much social change is optimism that the future can be better than the past. The widespread belief that black incarceration gets worse every year is not only profoundly wrong, it may also be crushing to the spirit of the many reformers who are striving to create a safer, more equitable and freer society."

    I don't know...it just sounded overly simplistic to me and lacking critical substance when trying to have a conversation about the social impact of a society that can be, time and time again, proven to be racist. Hmmm...psychiatry...wonder what he attributes the alleged decline in the incarceration rate of AA men and women to . . .
     
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    I think that article is a distraction from private prisons and mass incarceration.
     
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    You are very welcome Sis. NNQueen, and thanks for stopping by with your keen insight, in particular, the below excerpt from above depicts truth, compared to Whites:


    "... that is good news, when you are looking at AAs alone, as a group."

    Surprisingly, the article and link says this about
    Whites:


    "It can’t be overemphasized that these are trends unique to blacks rather than being part of a broader pattern of de-incarceration: The white imprisonment rate has been rising rather than falling."


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  6. Clyde C Coger Jr

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    Yes, I also took exception to the below statement from above:


    "... Yet somehow the juggernaut reversed direction 15 years ago. Analyzing how and why that happened could point the way to further reform, but of course this can happen only if the progress is acknowledged in the first place ..."


    Not only is it overly simplistic, but the critical substance it lacks, in my mind, would be giving credit to the Black community for the decline rather than to "reformers."

    In addition, he's attempting to juxtapose "the juggernaut" as the 1994 Violent Crime Control and Law Enforcement Act; conflating the two (2) in such a way that allows him to omit the fact that Black folk reduced the incarceration rate (de-incarceration), largely by themselves, while Whites accelerated by themselves.


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    Are you suggesting that private prisons-for profit numbers are not a part of the data of mass incarceration?

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    I wonder if Obama will get any credit for changing the sentencing laws, and that program to release the ones that don't need to be there.

    Peace!
     
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    Mr. Obama will receive very little credit, if any, which is the primary purpose of this Thread ... prefaced in this fashion:


    In the Spirit of the Obama Administration #1

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