Discussion in 'Black People Open Forum' started by Blackbird, Jul 2, 2010.
Is being classified as a Black person determined by phenotype, genetics or culture?
In the Spirit of Sankfofa and Real Truth!
Great question Blackbird, the experts will soon supply answers to this probing query, looking to learn from this dialogue, for real...Peace In my brother friend.
I ask this question because I have seen it used in many contexts. I perceive each context to be both valid and invalid depending on the use. Just my perception; yet ultimately, I have no idea.
I recently went to a seminar facilitated by a neuroscientist. She told us the story about Socrates. She said how people believe Socrates to be a very wise person. She said what happened was there was an election process happening for Senators. Many people gathered to be candidates and the Oracle of Delphi was charged with asking each one questions to answer. Each person, the prototype of today's politican, preceded to answer the Oracle's questions - even if they did not know the answer. Many b/s an answer. When the Oracle got to Socrates, she asked him the questions. What happen is he owned his own ignorance and admitted he had no idea. What he said afterwards is, paraphrasing of course, "I don't know but I have a few questions." Immediately the Oracle named Socrates to the Senate.
Whether this happen or not, historically, is besides the point.... I'm sure you understand. Thanks bruh.
In the Spirit of Sankofa and Real Truth!
That's great Blackbird...that's just great, and this brings us full circle doesn't it?...Peace In my brother friend, for real! ( see my subtle question: doesn't it)
Depends on who is doing the classification and the method they are using which may or may not be scientific.
PS I'm no expert so pardon my response if it proves insufficient.
I agree w/Bro. Clyde...very good question, indeed.
And I also agree with your Socrates example.
"Nature-VERSUS-Nurture?" or "Nature AND Nurture?"
I would lean to the latter, myself.
But then, across the diaspora, the "classification" is viewed differently.
I don't think culture have anything to do with it no more then the myth of
what has been told in the mist of brainwashing us.
I think black is determined by a combonation of genetic in origin and haplotype
imo, socrates got the nod only because he was honest enough to admit that he did not know. it could be that this could be the origin of "the first step on the road to wisdom is to admit that you do not know." maybe
interesting to note the attempts at answers ... or should i say the "passing of the buck".
quite simply,. myAfricans, "black" is "determined" by culture ... actually, an imposed so-called "culture" that has been whipped and lynched into Africans since sometime during the seventh century when the trans-saharan slave trade got going.
but, <sigh>, i suppose y'all can go on living in this dreamland if you want to. maybe the great-grand children of today's newborns might get a start on things?
Blackness is genetic. It is culture. It is a mindset. They work in conjunction. What I find most fascinating is how this question of identity always seems to surface where Black people are concerned.
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