Here are some links on Brazils Black population. Whenever people talk about pan-African relations it seems they always talk about Africans/Black Americans, Africans/West Indian Blacks, West Indian/American Blacks, yet Brazil has the worlds second largest Black population. http://www.raceandhistory.com/cgi-bin/forum/webbbs_config.pl/noframes/read/96 http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/2303059.stm http://www.frontpagemag.com/Articles/ReadArticle.asp?ID=7104 http://www.latinamericanstudies.org/brazil/black-brazilians.htm http://www.capoeirista.com/history_1_1.html http://www.brazil.org.uk/page.php?cid=1113 http://www.newint.org/issue226/black.htm I'd also like to know why people kick Afro-Latino's out of the general Afro-Caribbean population and Black diaspora in general? I had a friend (Jamaican/Guyanese ) who swore there were no Black Latinos. We were talking about Sammy Sosa and Felix Trinidad and he had said "he's not Black, he's Spanish" and I said "there are Black Latinos" , and he still disagreed with me, I tried to explain to him that Puerto Rican, Cuban, Dominican are nationalities not races, and there are Black Dominicans/Puerto Ricans/Cubans just like there are Black Americans because African slaves were dropped off not only in the US but all over the Caribbean ( the Caribbean includes Cuba, Puerto Rico and the DR ) and in some central/south American nations, but he didn't really take me seriously. My friend may be out of it, but alot of people seem to kick Afro-Latino's out of the Black race, even the ones who accept that 'Black' doesn't refer to Black Americans alone. What's this I hear about Afro-Latinos being ashamed of their Blackness, and this will sound stupid, but why do they continue to marry other Afro-Latinos if they were, their not completely assimilated in Puerto Rico, Cuba etc. When some people describe Black Latinos, they always say "dark skinned Puerto Ricans" or "dark skinned Cubans" and I've heard "dark skinned Brazillians" and won't just say Black Cuban/Puerto Rican/ Black Dominican etc. What's so abstract about the fact that African slaves were dropped off in Spanish speaking countries just like in America and the West Indies ( which technically refers to the English speaing Caribbean ), if someone is dark skinned with kinky hair and African features how are they not racially Black? Miguel Nunez, Carlos Cooks, the fat dark skinned comic from Coming To the Stage, Merlin Santana ( r.i.p), the dude I knew from gr8, Felix Trinidad, Fabolous ( half-Dominican ), Christina Milian ( if I'm not mistaken ) etc. are all clearly Black from Spanish speaking countries. Sorry if that sounded stupid but it bothers me. We're not talking about Dravidians or Aboriginee Australians/Pacific Islanders but people descended from African slaves just like American/West Indian Blacks. I don't know if I'm making a big deal of this but what do you think?