Black People : Black Americans are at the Forefront of the Revolutionary Struggle

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  1. medusanegrita

    medusanegrita Well-Known Member MEMBER

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    Africa's past is a great past. But if you thinking of moving forward, do not look to Africa or Africans now as a model of what should be done for African Americans NOW.

    It is Black Americans who are at the forefront of the Black evolutionary and revolutionary struggle.

    Financially, we may be of little assistance to Africa in the way that the asians and middle easterners are helping (exploiting and using) Africa, but Africa, the Carribean, Brazil and Latin America, Australia, an India are looking at Black Americans will renewed strength an vigor on how to FIGHT their own oppression and their oppressors.

    In the time I've been off here, one of the things I've been doing is gathering information and friends of African descent, mainly Nigerian (slightly ironic, I had no positive things to say about Nigerians in particular before I left here). Yeah, they still believe many of us as lazy in this 'land of opportunity' but they see that many of are us not deluded with the lies, deceit, and deception of the white man, and that we angry and reject him, his lies, and propaganda. This is something Africa in particular is having a hard time dealing with and accepting, likely because there are few whites in Africa, and blacks are running most or all of the countries there. When you don't deal with whites and white supremacy everyday and directly with whites, I guess it's easier to see them as more benign or less harmful beings. But there are a lot of Nigerian and African revolutionaries standing out and speaking against western influences and imperialism, corrupt african leaders, the christian and muslim hold on more than 2/3 of Africa, the class disparity, and preaching African unity in the process.

    I am learning a lot about Africa, in particular that country - and they are learning about us, our struggles, how we think, and what we fight for or against (or at least what many of us are most vocal about). Also learning some things about the Australian Aborigines - who are all coming to together back to their 'black' (aboriginal) roots even after nearly fading out and away from so much white/euro mxing. Don't forget about the Dalit Panthers, and Brazilians that are now claiming African roots and designating themselves African Cuban, or Afro Brazilian thanks to their stateside American counterparts.

    Note that more Black Americans are becoming atheist and/or have a growing interest in African spirituality such as Yoruba, Ifa, Voudoun, an other ATR, Africa is still being seized by the what as seen as the religion of arabs and white west - muslim and christianity.


    Note that in this revolutionary struggle you have blacks of all skin colors, while in many Latin Amercan countries they are fractionated due to skin color, creating a color and skin tone hierarchy that creates division instead of unity.

    It is a good time to be African/Black American as we lead the way and the struggle for our black, Afrikan, and Afrikan descended brethren of the world.

    Not sure if any of this has been posted, but here are a few videos for your thinking and viewing pleasure

    Music Video - Monday Midnight, Pissy Pissy
    About Corruption and poverty in Nigeria
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    How are our Native Iraqi Black Brothers are treated there
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    French police dragging Black/African women in the street, some over their own babies
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    Story is that they are immigrant squatters in a housing project scheduled for demolition. They were offered temporary accommodations but refuse to take it, so they police were apparently order to remove the group forcefully.
     
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    What exactly do you mean by revolution?, and wiith China giving African nations 20 billion in aid and infrasturctural construcion, why do you feel that we here with a Trillion cannot invest on a major level in Sankofa economics?
     
  4. Omowale Jabali

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    Hmm...this reads like a black twist of the old white left strategy and tactic of using black folks in "America as the "vanguard of the revolution". Forget that line. That black?African "revolution" was infiltrated and co-opted lastly by the Steinam Brigade dropping feminazi bombs of black male leadership.

    All but forgotten and obfuscated in this process is brother Malcolm's repeated statement concerning the Black Revolution:

    ALL REVOLUTIONS ARE BASED ON LAND.

    Therefore without a land base black "revolutionaries", in of all places the belly of the beast, are few and further between in 2010 than we/they were in 1980,and in no position to even take a vanguard role, except as suicide bombers who decide to just sacrifice themselves for the cause.

    Its interesting though watching how even brother Malcolm's words in this regard were disregarded by them very same Socialist-Militant labor forum guardians who just used Malcolm to gain access to a "militant" sector of the black revolution but them divided this same after his death between the socialist workers party, spartacist leave, rcp, new alliance party, cpusa, blah blah blah...
     
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    ALL REVOLUTIONS ARE BASED ON LAND. The Chinese have two things we dont.

    1. National unity with a centralized government.

    2. The Chinese have national soverignty. Which means China for the Chinese.

    So then what is the mecahnism to investing on a major (national) level in Sankofa economics?

    What do you mean exactly by "Sankofa economics" anyway? Can you please clarify? How is this different (if so) from Susu economics? How is this similar? What susu economic program has proven to be successful on a major (national) scale?
     
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    The question was adessed to the poster the way Malcolm told Wyatt T Walker not to use that word flagrantly unless they mean it, in regards to Wyat's comment about the "negro revolution"
     
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    Okay. I hear you even though you didn't answer any of my questions.
     
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    Chuck:

    In all due candor and honest, your take on what Malcolm said is not just the opinion of one individual-- but also just reflects who he was and was about at that stage of his evolution/development/growth/etc., i. e., as he rose above and beyond merely being a devotee and/or mimic of the NOI'S founder, then left the NOI to go on to be one of our peoples greatest theorist etc. on this continent/in this nation, as well as him also becoming internationalist etc., via the true meaning of that word..

    So, you must not limit your analysis merely to what he meant or means to you, on the personal and subjective side, etc.:

    Far better for one and all to re-examine his deeds and words--i. e., as a black revolutionary theorist and leader, fairly and objectively...

    Above and beyond that:

    Also in all due candor to the sista, you have indeed made a great leap of faith, to me as well...

    We shall find out if anybody in our midst on this continent/in this nation/etc. measures up to what you imply and suggest should be their agenda/task/etc. in 2010...

    :fyi:
     
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    In all respect, brother Malcolm made two profound statements which I cited above. The first is ALL Revolutions are based on Land. The second is we must Internationalize our struggle. These are objective fact and have nothing to do with my personal opinion or analysis of these two facts.

    If I am to analyse this "revolutionary process" since his death, I find these statements of his to be applicable today.

    Furthermore, I keep in mind that in 1965 it could have been argued that Afro-Americans were the vanguard, or part of the vanguard of the African revolution. Not so today. Not since the decline of revolutionary nationalist and black working class organizations ending with the disbanding of NBIPP around 1984 (correction). Actually, before this date, the students and workers in south Africa effectively took this vanguard role during the student protests leading to the Soweto Uprising in 1976. There has been no other singnificant push for African self-determination and national liberation since.

    This is not to say that the potentiality does not exist for black folks here in the us/diaspora toassume this forementioned role, but history is proving an abandonment and co-optation of this histrical mission and we know what Fanon said in this regards.

    This mission has not been fulfilled because by and large it has been betrayed. From the inside out and this occured back in about 1984 with the first Jackson presidential campaign and the co-optation in the form of the so-called Rainbow Coalition. The recent Obama "phenomenon" was the most recent form of this co-optation sealing the fate of black working class struggle in this country, moving labor closer to the center (as the revolutionary character of student organizations has virtually been eliminated with the decline of BSU's and the absence of national black/student organizations).
     
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    CTJ:

    You're writing and talking about the decline of organizations and/or the people who associated with their ideas/viewpoints/etc.

    On the other hand, I operated within the context of black cultural/social/religious institutions, natural and normal family/extended family ties did or do back up such things, at least until the white status quo backing of some (if not all) undermined the rise of new freedom struggles, which seem or sound to be taboo subjects, at least among some who overhype the importance of the aformentioned--dismiss the relevance of the second...

    Are you too about the redeeming of our various relations and/or getting them to reclaim their rightful places/spaces/etc. as the equals of all people on this planet?

    You tell me!

    I. e., those who seek to wield power, etc. must come forth from the grassroots, and all be qualified to be a part of the process, on the progressive side...

    :SuN034:
     
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