Black People : Biracial? or Black?

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  1. warriorprincess

    warriorprincess Well-Known Member MEMBER

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    If this topic has been discussed ad nauseum, pls forgive me and point me in the direction of the relevant thread. (I don't think that I can do a search just yet)


    I just wanted to know if it’s ok in today's time that biracial people have their own identity? Or do most black people still think that they should they claim one side (the black side)?

    I understand that Barack claims one side. However, I think he prefaced that with the idea that he was running as a black man because that is how most people see him. That statement does not however speak to how he sees himself…….

    I guess my real question is which perception is more prevelant at least amongst the people that you know? I am wondering how much things have changed since historical times.

    Thanks.
     
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    During the times of Jim Crow folks, who were light enough straightened or even died their hair and passed as white.

    During the period of the 60s an 70s and also the 80s, folks concidered themselves , Black, even those who actully looked white like Adam Clayton Powell Jr, Michael Manly and Glen Ford.

    From Tiger Woods first awards the term birracial came about and became popular in the 21 century.

    For along time even Black folks didn't want to be Black

    I'ts up to the individual to do and identify themselves with what they feel comfortable with.
     
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    This question is probably best put to "biracial" people.


    And also,

    Is "biracial" when a person who's mom and dad are of different ethnicities?
    And or does it apply to someone who, for example, is light-skinned because
    somebody (a white person) way back when going back 4 or more
    generations, intervened?


    In this country, there is what you see yourself to be...and there
    is what the populous see you as. Be what you are, however....if
    one jumps "back and forth" only when it works in their
    interest, don't be surprised when called on it.

    For for starters,

    How do you perceive this issue put in a historical context?
     
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    Oh Snap!
     
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    I myself think, historically speaking, it is not
    so much as what black folks wanted, for it was the
    hand yt dealt us, like it or not.

    For instance:

    Historically,
    When that yt dad (from way back when) did not except his
    "biracial" child, who was there?

    Historically,
    As it is presently,in yt's attempt to preserve his whiteness, where
    did that leave the "biracial" child? If that "biracial" child is not excepted as "one of
    them", then what is, and or, was the alternative?

    Please know, that all history is current and the things that went on in times
    past is still affecting today's outcome. This very discussion/subject matter,
    which is a good one, is an example of that fact.

    With that said, I'd still like to know, for clarity sake, what are you
    determining/defining as "biracial". Perhaps it would've helped if I'd
    reiterated that question before ripping of off my prior lines in inquiry.
     
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    Hmm, I am not looking into the historical side as I am just what I would view someone that is biracial(whichever ethinic background that pertains too). In speaking for an individual that's black and white, I guess I'd see them more black than white because I'm so use to viewing it that way! I think this question makes me think more about it...typically ppl that I've known that are biracial would think of themselves as one or the other, and very few would think of themselves as both races...
     
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    My understanding of biracial is having two parents of different races. In this instance I was specifically speaking of having one parent that is black and the second parent of another race.

    I guess this topic is more complex than I originally thought. I did not take into consideration the following perceptions. Some people believe...

    1. There is no such thing as race.
    2. One can have a great, great, great grandmother that is white (or non-black) and that makes one "mixed" or "biracial"
    3. Some people are offended by the term "biracial" all together (although I am not sure why)

    I was also making an assumption that black people have a collective voice and that we have a community. Some of us do not see us as a community, only individuals who have no connection to each other, no culture, and no traditions. For some, it is ok to talk about the collective views of blacks in countries like Brazil, but not a collective view of blacks in America.

    I guess I can only ask the question about community values, beliefs, and traditions amongst those who see blacks as having a community. I really am not even asking what the majority of the community should value. I just wanted to know what the majority of the community does value.
     
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    Welcome to Destee.com warriorprincess,

    Excellent thread and questions you have raised, which is certainly comprehensive and complex. Here are some links that sorta address, if you will, the deeper aspects on the race issue and what may be facing us on the horizon...Peace In my sister friend.


    http://destee.com/forums/showthread.php?t=61565

    http://destee.com/forums/showpost.php?p=595855&postcount=69

     
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