Law Forum : Bill Cosby - Bill Clinton, Why One But Not the Other?

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    Bill Cosby sex abuse trial scheduled for 2017
    September 6, 2016

    After years of accusations and denials, Bill Cosby will finally go on trial next year.

    On Tuesday, a judge in Pennsylvania scheduled a June 5, 2017, court date for the 79-year-old entertainer.

    He is charged with three counts of felony aggravated indecent assault related to a 2004 case involving Andrea Constand, an employee at his alma mater, Temple University.​

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    http://pix11.com/2016/09/06/bill-cosby-sex-abuse-trial-scheduled-for-2017

    Keep in mind, this started back up due to a comic skit. "Google it"


    And when one googles "Bill Clinton sexual allegations" (well might have to use Yahoo or Bing as Google seems to be cozy with the Clinton connection), some deep and head scratching content comes up.

    "When you leave here, google Bill Cosby rapist"

    and
    "When you read this, google, bing, yahoo Bill Clinton rapist"​

    Let Me Bing That For You!
    http://letmebingthatforyou.com/?q=Bill Clinton Rapist

    Longtime Bill Clinton sex-assault accuser says Hillary 'enabled it to happen again and again and again and again'
    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...ccuser-says-Hillary-enabled-happen-again.html






    Norma Rogers interviewed about alleged 1978 Bill Clinton rape
    September 14, 2016




    Kirsten Powers - A tale of two Bills: Cosby, Clinton and predatory men

    Much has changed since Bill and Hillary Clintonwere swept into the White House amidst sordid tales about the Arkansas governor’s extra-marital sex life.

    Back then, a senior campaign aide (Betsey Wright) on a Democratic campaign could utter the phrase “bimbo eruptions” to demean women claiming to have had an affair with Bill Clinton. Today, such utterances would be rightly deemed unequivocally sexist.​

    Read more
    http://www.usatoday.com/story/opini...n-donald-trump-elections-2016-column/78270504


    11 times Bill Clinton was accused of sexual assault or rape: Remember this as he stumps for Hillary
    July 27, 2016

    “In the spring of 1971, I met a girl.” That’s how Bill Clinton began his speech at the Democratic National Convention, causing Rachel Maddow to say, “I think the beginning of the speech was a controversial way to start.”

    She found it “shocking” and “rude” that he kept referring to Clinton as a “girl” and building her “political story” around him. This was not a very “feminist” way to start a speech, she said.

    Others thought Bill’s speech was “humanizing” to his notoriously stiff wife, vintage Clinton.

    However, what both critics and fans of Bill’s speech are forgetting is that his past is more like the stuff of the latest HBO Sunday night drama instead of elderly statesman: a callous playboy politician sexually assaulting interns while charismatically campaigning for votes. Scores of accusations and victims stretching over several decades. Allegations from victims of bullying and intimidation by his cold and calculating wife.


    Unfortunately, this is far from fiction.

    When he said, “In the spring of 1971, I met a girl” — there are many women across America who thought, “Really? Which one?”​

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    http://www.patheos.com/blogs/french...an-antidote-for-his-speech-inspired-nostalgia


    Bill Clinton was investigated because of the accusations brought by Paula Jones, but was impeached and disbarred for his lying under oath about another sexual encounter, with Monica Lewinsky.

    Interesting how the sexual harassment and rape scandal was essentially overshadowed by him lying about an affair with another woman.





    Woman who claims Bill Cosby sexually abused her sues comedian for defamation

    She relented and, on one occasion when she didn't fully lose consciousness remembers Cosby kissing and groping her, as well as angering Cosby by complaining about his "cigar breath," the lawsuit said.​

    http://www.foxnews.com/entertainmen...s-comedian-defamed-her-alleges-sex-abuse.html


    What, Exactly, Is the Cigar Story?

    The story is that Monica Lewinsky m.........d with a cigar while President Clinton watched and m.........d as well. Yassir Arafat was supposedly kept waiting in the Rose Garden while this was going on in a room next to the Oval Office. The story has been widely talked about, moderately referred to in the mainstream press, and narrowly (i.e., in the Drudge Report, the New York Post, and various British papers) reported as fact.​

    http://www.slate.com/articles/news_.../1998/09/what_exactly_is_the_cigar_story.html


    So the question is...

    If Cosby, Why Not Clinton?

    This is not a new idea. While the nation turns its back on comedian Bill Cosby, the post-White House career of Bill Clinton soars. Yet, what is the difference between the two scenarios? As far as this writer can tell, Cosby used drugs; Clinton used his political prestige. What it boils down to is that Clinton has a better damage control/public relations apparatus behind him.

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    http://www.redstate.com/diary/davenj1/2015/07/28/cosby-clinton

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    Who'd ever think cigars could go from being "cool", to "creepy"
     
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    And not to make light of the women that alleged Cosby had non-consensual sexual experiences with them, but many of them were reportedly incoherent and didn't really know what had happened (accusing Cosby of drugging them).

    While Bill Clinton's accusers were apparently lucid and coherent when their alleged non-consensual sexual experiences with him occurred.

    Wondering if "rape" is becoming just another taboo thing to brush off like smoking weed.
    It is rarely discussed like other hot topics, and when it is the topic veers into some other territory that piggy backs off of the raping of women.

    Might create a thread on this, to really see what the mental diaspora considers when the discussion of rape is opened for dialog.

    Not sure if it can be an open discussion though, as the content may become more explicit than appropriate for less mature eyes and minds.
     
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    Google "pedophile island"

    When talking about Bill Clinton, just brings down the mood...



    Roger Stone Confirms That He's In Communication With Julian Assange
    https://mediamatters.org/video/2016...firms-hes-communication-julian-assange/212261

    Rep. Nadler Asks FBI Director Comey About Trump Confidant Roger Stone’s Ties To WikiLeaks And Julian Assange
    http://mediamatters.org/video/2016/...oger-stone-s-ties-wikileaks-and-julian/213402

    Is this an attempt to make sure the Bill Clinton rape allegations and pedophile connections don't make it into the Maim Stream media outlets, or at least discredit them.

    Insinuating (recommending. wink wink) that Roger Stone should potentially be investigated.




    EXCLUSIVE: How talk of Bill Clinton's post-presidency cheating - with a Canadian heiress, a divorced neighbor and actress Gina Gershon - led to Hillary's decision to use her randy husband 'sparingly' in her campaign
    September 29, 2016

    Bill Clinton has been used sparingly on his wife's campaign trail this year - a decision made by Hillary's managers who believed he might become a distraction.

    Turning 70 this past August, Bill has had better and worse days. Some days his hands quiver, some days he looks frail and elderly. Other times he's robust and forceful.

    But it's his rumored post-presidency extramarital affairs that led Hillary's campaign to keep him off the schedule.

    Author Joe Conason reveals the details of the unending rumors of Bill's multiple lovers over the years in his new book, Bill Clinton: Man of the World, published by Simon and Schuster.

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    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...ion-use-randy-husband-sparingly-campaign.html
     
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    GLORIA ALLRED FOR HILLARY CLINTON
    The women’s-rights lawyer attends the Democratic Convention to support the first woman to be nominated for President by a major political party.
    August 8, 2016

    Gloria Allred, the crusading women’s-rights lawyer, was racing through the Pennsylvania Convention Center last week when someone screamed, “Gloria! Can we take a picture?” It was another lawyer, Brenda Bergis. “You are my hero,” Bergis said, and described her work defending victims of domestic violence. She said that Allred—who typically represents women, from exploited porn stars and ex-girlfriends of N.F.L. players to sexually harassed workers—had inspired her. “I want you to run for office!” Allred told her. Bergis held out her phone for a selfie.

    Allred was an elected delegate from California, where she’s been a Hillary Clinton supporter since 2008. She was looking forward to casting her vote while staying on top of her various cases—she represents thirty-two of Bill Cosby’s accusers, among other clients. She had a long day ahead, scheduled to end with a 2:30 a.m. appearance on CNN.​

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    http://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2016/08/08/gloria-allred-for-hillary-clinton


    Still can't understand how this Ford person proclaimed that Bill Clinton's career was not undone...
    He got IMPEACHED!

    The History Place - Impeachment: Bill Clinton
    http://www.historyplace.com/unitedstates/impeachments/clinton.htm


    And this as well...

    "On January 19, 2001, Bill Clinton became the first sitting U.S. president to surrender his law license and acknowledge lying under oath and obstruction of justice in an unprecedented 5-year suspension," according to the Southeastern Legal Foundation (SLF).​

    Source:
    http://cnsnews.com/news/article/clinton-faces-disbarment-supreme-court

    I think people just play ignorant so much it becomes a part of their character, and hard to watch anyone go through these contortions.


    Even Maim Stream media was slipping up and confusing the two Bills...


    Bill Cosby may go to jail, while Bill Clinton may end up back in the White House.
     
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    This is definitely part of my issue with Hillary--it just is. She's not a martyr, she's an accomplice.

    I recall one of the women members here sort of criticizing me when I mentioned his infamous and very public sex scandals in another thread as we discussed Hillary's run for the presidency and it was made to sound as though I was woman bashing her for the faults of her husband. Far from the truth. I know the difference and would not blame an innocent woman who knows nothing about her husband's illicit affairs or should be responsible for his actions and decisions as a completely separate individual.

    What I'm saying is that Hillary is not ignorant nor is she a typical woman scorned because she always knew her husband is a philanderer and couldn't keep his penis in his pants even well before he ran for the presidency the first time, even as Governor of Arkansas. She protected him then, she continues to protect him. Why? Because she's more power hungry than she is a starry-eyed woman in love.

    She was pissed with him because his base sexual nature was jeopardizing their ability to make it to the WH and lead one of the most powerful countries in the world, which was far more important to Hillary than him stepping outside of their marriage to play doctor/patient with young women. And let's be clear. Bill wasn't just stepping out on his wife, he was violating the trust of the American people also when he used taxpayers money and property to play his shady sex games.

    What's even sadder is they have even managed to convince their daughter, Chelsea, this either isn't true and just a smear campaign or is not worth being concerned about because the marriage is a business partnership as opposed to a romantic ruse.

    Now Bill Cosby's health is declining, or so it's reported, which some can call karma. Rumor has it that the other Bill is no picture of perfect health either as the media draws attention to and speculates about the ever present patch of red skin on his forehead that never seems to go away. Raspy and hoarse voice, saggy eyes, very pale skin. Right, his law license was pulled because he had to suffer in some way for his indiscretions but he won't be Cosby's cellmate.
     
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    Mel Reynolds Got Out of Jail In 2001, Compliments of Bill Clinton. Why?
    November 30, 2012

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    They don’t have much in common today. Bill Clinton earns half a million bucks for few speeches. Mel Reynolds rents in Dolton and struggles to pay his bills. But both were once poor southern boys (Arkansas and Mississippi respectively) who rose to become Rhodes Scholars, and who were publicly humiliated for sex with much younger women: a White House intern (Clinton) and a teenage campaign volunteer (Reynolds).

    ...Mel Reynolds, then 47, the imprisoned 2nd District congressman who resigned in 1995 after being indicted on state sex-related charges, including child pornography and having sex with a 16-year-old girl and then attempting to cover it up, and later on for federal fraud charges, including bank fraud and converting campaign funds to personal use (convicted 1997). He was serving prison time on the latter when Clinton, just two hours before leaving office, handed Reynolds his get-out-of-jail-free card.​

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    http://www.chicagomag.com/Chicago-M...-Jail-in-2001-Compliments-of-Bill-Clinton-Why

    More
    http://articles.chicagotribune.com/2001-01-21/news/0101210442_1_clemency-grants-pardons-conviction
    http://www.snopes.com/politics/sexuality/reynolds.asp

    Ex-con running for Jesse Jackson Jr.'s seat
    2012




    Former congressman Mel Reynolds arrested in Zimbabwe
    2014
     
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    All that, and this too...
    Why Does Bill Clinton Deny His "Other Child"?
     
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    Since Youtube took the video down, here...

    Norma Rogers interviewed about alleged 1978 Bill Clinton rape
    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/embed/video/1329671.html
     
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    Man yells 'Bill Clinton is a rapist' at Kaine rally
    October 07, 2016

    A man disrupted Democratic vice presidential nominee Tim Kaine’s campaign rally in Las Vegas late Thursday, loudly accusing former President Bill Clinton of rape before being ejected by security.

    “Bill Clinton is a rapist,” he shouted three times. "It’s a media cover up. Infowars.com."​

    Source:
    http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box...yells-bill-clinton-is-a-rapist-at-kaine-rally


    Must have been sent by Alex Jones, tossing out plug for infowars, as if they are the only source for the information.

    https://www.theguardian.com/us-news...ape-shirt-republican-convention-hillary-merch

    Alex was just trolled by Roger Stone and presumably Julian Assange, but that doesn't stop them from trolling for attention. But it seems to be working:

    Which is not good for the Clinton campaign, media outlets are beginning to cover the protests involving the Bill Clinton rape allegations...

     
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