Black People : BIG BLACK LIES ABOUT KATRINA...

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  1. Isaiah

    Isaiah Well-Known Member MEMBER

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    Awright, peoples, the truth is now starting to be separated from the fictitious and highly exxagerated accounts of rapings, robberies,and murders at the Superdome and the Morial Convention Center... The sad part of it is that African people were the ones busy spreading all the rumors! My God, and I believed this stuff was true because brothers and sisters were running around with tears in their lying eyes "confiming" shh!

    Peops, read this whole article from the Los Angeles Times... It makes me wonder what in the hell is on our minds to feed into all the negative stereotypes about our community that we have to make up crazier and crazier lies that only serve to degrade our image in the eyes of the world???

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    Katrina Takes a Toll on Truth, News Accuracy
    Rumors supplanted accurate information and media magnified the problem. Rapes, violence and estimates of the dead were wrong.

    By Susannah Rosenblatt and James Rainey, Times Staff Writers


    BATON ROUGE, La. — Maj. Ed Bush recalled how he stood in the bed of a pickup truck in the days after Hurricane Katrina, struggling to help the crowd outside the Louisiana Superdome separate fact from fiction. Armed only with a megaphone and scant information, he might have been shouting into, well, a hurricane.

    The National Guard spokesman's accounts about rescue efforts, water supplies and first aid all but disappeared amid the roar of a 24-hour rumor mill at New Orleans' main evacuation shelter. Then a frenzied media recycled and amplified many of the unverified reports.


    "It just morphed into this mythical place where the most unthinkable deeds were being done," Bush said Monday of the Superdome.

    His assessment is one of several in recent days to conclude that newspapers and television exaggerated criminal behavior in the wake of Hurricane Katrina, particularly at the overcrowded Superdome and Convention Center.

    The New Orleans Times-Picayune on Monday described inflated body counts, unverified "rapes," and unconfirmed sniper attacks as among examples of "scores of myths about the dome and Convention Center treated as fact by evacuees, the media and even some of New Orleans' top officials."

    Indeed, Mayor C. Ray Nagin told a national television audience on "Oprah" three weeks ago of people "in that frickin' Superdome for five days watching dead bodies, watching hooligans killing people, raping people."

    Journalists and officials who have reviewed the Katrina disaster blamed the inaccurate reporting in large measure on the breakdown of telephone service, which prevented dissemination of accurate reports to those most in need of the information. Race may have also played a factor.

    The wild rumors filled the vacuum and seemed to gain credence with each retelling — that an infant's body had been found in a trash can, that sharks from Lake Pontchartrain were swimming through the business district, that hundreds of bodies had been stacked in the Superdome basement.

    "It doesn't take anything to start a rumor around here," Louisiana National Guard 2nd Lt. Lance Cagnolatti said at the height of the Superdome relief effort. "There's 20,000 people in here. Think when you were in high school. You whisper something in someone's ear. By the end of the day, everyone in school knows the rumor — and the rumor isn't the same thing it was when you started it."

    Follow-up reporting has discredited reports of a 7-year-old being raped and murdered at the Superdome, roving bands of armed gang members attacking the helpless, and dozens of bodies being shoved into a freezer at the Convention Center.

    Hyperbolic reporting spread through much of the media.

    Fox News, a day before the major evacuation of the Superdome began, issued an "alert" as talk show host Alan Colmes reiterated reports of "robberies, rapes, carjackings, riots and murder. Violent gangs are roaming the streets at night, hidden by the cover of darkness."

    The Los Angeles Times adopted a breathless tone the next day in its lead news story, reporting that National Guard troops "took positions on rooftops, scanning for snipers and armed mobs as seething crowds of refugees milled below, desperate to flee. Gunfire crackled in the distance."

    The New York Times repeated some of the reports of violence and unrest, but the newspaper usually was more careful to note that the information could not be verified.

    The tabloid Ottawa Sun reported unverified accounts of "a man seeking help gunned down by a National Guard soldier" and "a young man run down and then shot by a New Orleans police officer."

    London's Evening Standard invoked the future-world fantasy film "Mad Max" to describe the scene and threw in a "Lord of the Flies" allusion for good measure.

    Televised images and photographs affirmed the widespread devastation in one of America's most celebrated cities.

    "I don't think you can overstate how big of a disaster New Orleans is," said Kelly McBride, ethics group leader at the Poynter Institute, a Florida school for professional journalists. "But you can imprecisely state the nature of the disaster. … Then you draw attention away from the real story, the magnitude of the destruction, and you kind of undermine the media's credibility."

    Times-Picayune Editor Jim Amoss cited telephone breakdowns as a primary cause of reporting errors, but said the fact that most evacuees were poor African Americans also played a part.

    "If the dome and Convention Center had harbored large numbers of middle class white people," Amoss said, "it would not have been a fertile ground for this kind of rumor-mongering."
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    Isaiah
     
  2. Steve69

    Steve69 Well-Known Member MEMBER

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    But now we believe the media over black people?
     
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    I always say the media will fix up and give tales of what they want America to hear
    change stories and fill the world with makeship beliefs ...the real truth lay within.....
     
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    I don't know whether to believe either account now.
     
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    All I can say is this. I don't believe everything the media says. The reporters from the Times Picayune who broke this story were both white. They claimed that their staff was the only media present in the city when the floods broke and people were first being evacuated. Now, how is that?

    Also, was I the only person who saw the graphic photos of decapitated, murdered bodies in the Convention Center on national news. These white reporters who broke the story claimed there were only about, I believe they said, 4-5 deaths in the SuperDome...one suicide, two by natural causes and one was an accident I think...my memory slips me now. But they made no mention of the decapitated bodies found in that freezer.

    There is most likely a coverup going on. The Police Superintendent quits...why do you really think that was? Nagin is the one who should resign...and Blanco would have to be forced out...that woman ain't giving up nothing. She's partially the reason for slow response. Telling FEMA she needs 24 hours to make a decision when options are given to her. Is she running the State or someone else running her? She's on a power trip.

    Bottom line is that New Orleans is a mess. No progress is being made. Nagin is trying to repopulate a city that is a loooooong ways from handling that. You've got coffins all over the place, dead bodies floating around, mold and bacteria, an unbearable stench...the pictures say a thousand words that the media doesn't have to spin for me.
     
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    i said from jump the reports of mass lawlessness were over blown due to race.

    answer this

    During the los angeles riots afer the rodney king verdict the nation witnessed crime on t.v, beatings, arson, looting.

    Where is documented videographed evidence of gangs of armed bandits? looting???? i mean these news beasts were flying their propaganda machines all over the city (why were they not dropping water and food btw?) yet all they could come up with were some people getting toilet paper, and potato chips. oh yeah the dude with the t.v. ...well i can think of 1,000 reasons why one would need a television in a crisis with no connections to the outside world.

    again where are the victims of these rapes, we have police chiefs saying this stuff didnt happen. im sure there were crimes comitted as there were before the hurricane (n.o. has always had a high crime rate).

    I believ the white nedia should be held responible for their lies.

    although im wiling to bet the pigs murdered some people.
     
  7. jamesfrmphilly

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    was Oprah lying....?

    i saw the police chief crying on Oprah about child rapes.
    these were two black people on TV.
    this story came from a black man.

    now i wonder if it was true.
     
  8. Isaiah

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    Well, again, my gut impulse was to NOT believe the nonsense I hear pouring out my radio, and I still did not fully believe all that was reported until I heard NOLA Police Chief, Eddie Compass on the Oprah Show, myself... Additionally, the Mayor appeared on the show, and seemed to confirm all the Police Chief of the city of New Orleans had shared with Oprah...

    Those of us who witnesses THAT were left with the question of do we keep on believing what WE WANT to believe, or the "truth" as exposed by two brothers who should know what the real deal is... Against my better judgement, I figured if the Police Chief is confirmed in his statements by the Mayor, and the act of confirming this stuff only hurts the image of their City and themselves, it has to be true...

    At this point, I got to believe these are two of the dumbest brothers I have ever seen...Compass is now retired/resigned the other day, and Nagin probably will not get to serve another term after these allegations have come out... I've heard great things about how they both were turning NOLA around, but if that were the case, they've done themselves and the city irreparable harm with their lies... Not only that, they did African Americans NATIONALLY a disservice, as we are one people, subject to one terrible perception problem...

    Aint saying that it really makes a difference, but ****, when does it get reported the great and wonderful things we DID DO down in NOLA... Remember, the first 2 or 3 days, AFrican people did nothing but save our damned selves, no thanks to any government agency, or Nagin crying out for government help while AFricans were dying... It is sad to say that when scandals like this go down, it seems WE are the only ones being hurt in the process... In this case, it will be because two unthinking fools brought about their own downfall...


    Isaiah
     
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    does Oprah get a pass here?
     
  10. Isaiah

    Isaiah Well-Known Member MEMBER

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    I don't think Oprah was any different than any of us... I think she got duped into believing this big act that the Chief and the Mayor put on just like many of us did...

    She essentially believed them because it probably never occured to her that these two "honorable" men were running an assbackwards con game... I mean, do you think some white boys would paint such a terrible picture of their city during a time of crisis??? New York City After September 11th was no where near the level of castastrophe that New Orleans was, but now we are hearing how skillful the Guiliani's leadership was during that event as a comparison to Nagin... The brother simply over played his hand, thinking THAT might be a way to get more federal help, and it was just flat stupid on his part... Now they're turning it all around to ridicule his administration, which it turns out, did a rather fantastic job...

    If you're saying that Oprah should retract any statements she made, well she made none... The Mayor and the Police Chief made all the wild assed statements... If you're saying she should go off on a tangent on one of her shows, criticizing these guys, no, I don't see how that helps anyone... If nothing, these clowns should come before the public, and come before Oprah, and apologize for their character assassination of our community... They were no better than the low down racists who propagate racist lies against our communities...

    Peace!
    isaiah
     
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