Black Spirituality Religion : Betrayal of Judas

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  1. dattaswami1

    dattaswami1 Well-Known Member MEMBER

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    Judas betrayed the human incarnation. Judas may be an ordinary human being or may be the servant of Lord who belongs to the innermost circle. Thus there are two possibilities. Let us examine the scripture in the light of both the possibilities. If he is an ordinary human being, he shall be punished by death given by the judgement or he shall punish himself by committing suicide. The latter part of punishment was advised by Lord Jesus Himself. Jesus told that it is better himself to cut ones own sinful hand than falling in the eternal fire.

    If the human being is a realised soul, he will follow the instruction of Jesus and will commit suicide. But if the human being is like an animal, he will betray the Lord and go away with the bribe. For such a fellow, the judgement in the court is required in this world. If he escapes the judgement here, he will certainly go to the liquid fire. Now Judas proved himself as a realised soul. According to Jesus, if you punish yourself for your own sin, you need not go to the hell. In Hinduism also, Manu Smruthi says ‘the sinner punished by the king in this world gets rid of his sin and goes to heaven.’ (Rajabhih Dhruta Dandastu …. Manu Smruthi).

    Even from the court of law, we know that a single crime cannot have two punishments. Therefore if you take Judas as an ordinary human being, then also, he need not go to hell. Now if you analyse the case, in the path of second possibility, the devotee of the Lord acted in that bad role and punished himself for his own sin. In that case he has given the message to the world and entered the inner circle of the Lord after playing his due role. In both these possibilities, the scripture applies in toto. The conclusion of both the possibilities is only that one should not betray the Lord in human form.

    If one betrays the creator it is better that he ends his life and join the list of unborn persons. This is the meaning of the statement of the scripture. Especially in the case of Judas, he became the disciple of Jesus for sometime. Betraying the spiritual preacher, who is the Lord in human form (Satguru) is the highest sin. No other way of repentance is justified. Betraying an ordinary human being itself is the highest sin. Betraying the Lord is higher than the highest sin. This shows the purity of the Lord and the importance that should be given to the Lord.

    At the Lotus feet of Datta Swami

    Universal Spirituality for World Peace
  2. Angela22

    Angela22 Well-Known Member MEMBER

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    The Son was letting us know it's better that a single member be cut off, be cast away than your whole self, your entire spirit be cast into the fires of condemnation.

    So, I don't believe he was stating to commit suicide, though one who follows after the Anointed One of the Father shouldn't be too concerned with saving their life, since that was done by His sacrifice for our iniquity.

    Judas killed himself because he had finally recognized what he'd done, and how he'd be viewed from then on. He gave away a friend, the Son of the Most High for 30 pieces of silver.

    I find people try to sympathize with Judas, but he didn't care until the matter was done, and didn't even believe the truths the Son spoke of to His faithful, questioning as if there were things impossible for the Father.

    So, while none should revel in the punishment of another, we shouldn't try act as if we're more caring or compassionate than the Son was, who stated it'd been better if Judas wasn't born because of how evil his deed was. Truly, the Son cared for His friend, but Judas made himself an enemy to have that which was worldly rather than that which was of the Spirit, the love of the Father and the Son, a resurrection to greatness just as the Son had the 3rd day, and a place in His Kingdom. Those who believe and are faithful and trust in the Father and His judgement shouldn't worry on Judas, but learn what we should, and understand how satan can bring us to doing the most wicked things, if we allow.