- This is such a weak excuse, for how would a NEW MEMBER know who is who if they are NEW to a website full of everyone under the sun?? Unless they have BEEN TOLD that THERE ARE NO MUSLIMS HERE ABDURRATTLN!! Therefore, you greet people in PEACE until they show and prove otherwise, whether they be MUSLIM OR NOT. "i leave with you this day 2 things, 1) This book & 2) MY EXAMPLE!!!!!!!
No. I disagree. This is clearly not a Muslim site. Furhtermore, people may not realize it, but people all over the world are observing this. So, they are well ware of the hostile sentiments and attitudes and Islamophobia that is expressed here every hour of every day, just about. So, no one id fooled. People know they phoney line that people like info-moetry has been pushing aginst Arabs and Muslims IN THIS SITE for many years. Hypocrisy will not fool anybody. Your best bet is to man up to it and apologize. And, do nto say I did specifically warn you about this years ago. If you want to receive Salams, you have to prove that you deserve it. Sometimes even I do not want to offer Salams.
I mean for crying out loud, there are three Chrsitain countries ganging up on Muslim Somalia and you expect uas to offer Salams. That is adding insult to injury. Say something in opposition to Uganda murdering women and children in Somalia, then ask for Salams.
- WHO IS this US you speak of all of a sudden?? You and your brother Abdullah? once again you prove yourself to be a LIAR!
I consider all Muslims everywhere as my brothers and sisters. But
you and the likes of you have yet to show evidence that you are Muslims. It takes more than "I am a Muslim" to be accepted into the Muslim Community and Brotherhood.
For instance, do you Pray Five Times a Day? Do you Fast diuring Ramadan? Do you pay Zakat to poor people? I do not think so. And as long as you do not do these things, you will not be accepted as a Muslim.
YOU never asked me which version I USE!
Man, from the get I asked you who your translatros were. And you still have not told us. All you have done is evade and beat around the bush. If you cannot move in the positive and say something intelligent, I will not have much choice but to start ignoring you.
YOU saw that question asked to me in the CONTRADICTIONS IN THE QU'RAN thread by a member who was banned years ago, I WAS NOT ASKED BY YOU!
Well, you are asked by mne right now. Who are YOUR translators?
YOU SIMPLY SAID YOU DON'T GO BY ENGLISH TRANSLATIONS AND OBVIOUSLY ABDULLAH IS USING AN ENGLISH TRANSLATION . For the record -I go by whatever Qu'ran YOU or ANYONE ELSE wants to go by when they want TO FORCE THEIR RELIGION ON OTHERS pops out of the woodworkAs i have asked Abdullah what version has HE READ or is he posting from, or do we have another student of Wikpedia in our midst?...**It does not matter which version we use, i have READ and STUDIED the Qu'ran so take your pick!.
I do not know if I made it clear or not. And, i do not want to go back and find the post. So, let mke just say that
NO TRANSLATION OF QURAN is 100% authenic. NONE ARE CONSIDERED TO BE QURAN NO MATTER WHAT LANGUAGE IT IS TRAMNSLATED INTO. The original Arabic is the best. But, I think the oral version is even better.
- i disagree! Are you saying that no one with the full understanding of Arabic and English has translated a QU'RAN, yet you feel comfortable using wikpedia and google to quote the Qu'ran from??
All I am saying it that native speakers tend to have a better command of any given language than those who learning it as a second language. Brother Yusuf was an Asian of Karachi, I think. This impliesd that his mother language was not Arabic. Nevertheless, he was hafiz which means he memorized Quran
IN ARABIC at an early age. But, when it came to understanding what irt meant, he probably learned it in hiis native tongue which was not Arabic. So, when it came to translating into English what we probably have is a translation of a translation from Arabic. In any case, we know for a fact that he made some errors. But, we do not really hold his mistakes against him because his work was the first of Muslim translating into English and no matter how flawed it was far superior to anything that non-Muslims had ever produced previously.
No, it is on YOU to provide which Qu'ran you are speaking from as YOU are the one claiming to be enlightened and here to enlighten others from the Qu'ran....You calling people stupid, brainless, ignorant, fools, chickens and whatever else "a cooca-doo-da-doooooo" means that you alone feel you know the way, in your mind, but don't even know that the Kaa'ba is a SYMBOL OF ISLAM!
My sources are cited. And the Kabah should not be considered a symbol. It is a shrine which is a Place of Worship. It is a Place where people gather to Pray, Prevously it has been called GOD's House. It is a Masjid, not a symbol of any kind.
- LOL, now i know you are trying to clean up your act and all in front of Abdullah, but again YOU ARE LYING. You have NEVER asked for names of my translators for a better understanding Abdurrattln!! STOP LYING, or show me, or as YOU SAY "PROVE IT - A COC O DOOOOO LAA DOOOO".......[B]WHEN AND IN WHAT THREAD HAVE YOU EVER HUMBLED YOURSELF TO ASK ME MUCH OF ANYTHING [/B]!!
This is the last time you will call me a liar and have a response from me. I would prefer to just ignore you. You obviously do not deserve any response or respect.