Brother AACOOLDRE : Basilides & the influence on the NT

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    THE ROLE OF BASILIDES IN THE EVENTS OF AD 69

    By Kenneth Scott

    The Journal of Roman Studies, Vol. 24 (1934)

    Review By A. Austin

    In the establishing of Vespasian on the imperial throne an important part was played by Tiberius. Julius Alexander, the prefect of Egypt (Alexander’s cameo appearance in the New Testament in Mark 15: 21-24). Before any decisive step was taken by Vespasian, the Egyptian prefect had deliberated with either Mucianus or Vespasian, or with both, and had pledged his support (Tac. Hist 2:74; 76) The prefect was, moreover, the first to have his soldiers take the oath of allegiance to Vespasian, on July 1st , 69AD (Seut. Vesp 6 & Tac, hist 2:79). The die was cast by Vespasian at the conclusion of a conference held with Mucianus at Mt Carmel (Tac Hist 2:76), and it is only reasonable to suppose that Ti. Julius Alexander had a representative at this all-important meeting. I suggest that there was such a representative, a certain Basilides, concerning whom we have considerable information.

    An edict of a perfect of Egypt, Cn. Vergilius Capito, which is inscribed on the first pylon of the great Temple at Girgeh and dated in the year A.D. 49, mentions as an official of importance a Libertus named XXXXX, probably a procurator. Stein is doubtless correct in identifying the XXXXX of Girgeh inscription with the Basilides described by Tacitus in a passage which concerns a vision said to have been seen by Vespasian in the temple of Sarapis (Osiris) in Alexandria, Egypt. Tacitus, after stating that the miraculous cures effected by Vespasian upon the advice of the god Sarapis aroused in him a desire to consult the god concerning the destinies of empire, continues. (These miracles Vespasian repeats the miracle of spit into the eyes of the blind to cure them mark 8:22 & John 9;11).

    Suetonius (Vesp., 7) tells of the same vision, but apparently places the visit to the temple before the healing miracles. He likewise adds important details not found in Tacitus account, namely that Vespasian made many offerings to the God; that Basilides was a Libertus , and that he offered to Vespasian sacred boughs, garlands, and loaves as is the custom there; that for some time Basilides had been unable to walk because of his rheumatism.

    Several points are to be note: Basilides, in accordance with the rites of the Temple, offered various sacred objects and apparently acted as a sacerdos assisting Vespasian. Nor was Vespasian surprised by the role played by Basilides, but only by his presence at a time when he was supposed to be far away. Again, Vespasian was familiar with Basilides’ state of health and knew where to send the cavalry to find him in the place where he was ‘detained’ by rheumatism, which, whether real or pretended, would be a not unnatural illness in the case a man who had probably been a procurator in Egypt in 49AD and would by 69AD be well on in years.

    The fact that Vespasian knew about Basilides, who was being detained suggest that Vespasian had been with him a short time before. Basilides, furthermore, seems to have been prevented from accompanying Vespasian, who had probably just reached Alexandria when this visit to the temple and the miracles of healing took place . I suggest, then, that Basilides was accompanying Vespasian from Judea to Alexandria when he was left behind for reasons of ill health about 80 miles from Alexandria.

    Bearing this in as a possibility, and also the fact that Basilides (or his phantom) as a sacerdos assisted Vespasian when he was sacrificing in the temple of Sarapis, let us consider a strikingly similar event which had occurred shortly before at Mt. Carmel and which is described as follows by Tacitus in (Hist 2:78-79).

    Stein gives the Basilides, the sacerdos at Carmel, and the Basilides who acted as a sacerdos in Vespasian’s vision in the temple of sarapis as two distinct persons. It seems, however, incredible that there were two different priests named Basilides who within a short space of time are mentioned in connection with events calculated to inspire confidence in the divine approval of Vespasian’s plans. I believe, then, that Ti. Julius Alexander sent a representative to the momentous meeting at Carmel between Mucianus and Vespasian, namely, a certain Basilides, a man of years and importance, who probably was procurator in Egypt as early as 49, a man well qualified to represent the perfect of the land.

    In conclusion it is to be noted that Basilides in his priestly capacity seems to have been highly successful in securing prestige for Vespasian. We cannot tell whether the Emperor while sacrificing to sarapis saw Basilides in flesh and blood or only in a vision. But some one-and who more likely than Basilides?-was attempting, as had been done previously at Carmel, to provide for Vespasian (Tac Hist 4:81 Suet. Vesp. 7).


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    I recall from George G.M James book Stolen Legacy “That Christ after attending the Lodge at Mt. Carmel went to Egypt for final initiation, which took place in the great Pyramid of Cheops” p.178. Due to the fact that Jesus Christ is a composite figure of mythical and historical men this visit was due to the first of three Christ that being Vespasian. Too bad James was unaware that the Christ at Mt Carmel was one and the same with Vespasian who took the spiting incident whole scale from the Egyptian pyramid and coffin text of the Egyptians. Or maybe James did know.

    Kenneth Scott failed to see Vespasian cure of two persons one a withered hand or foot and the other blind was cured by Vespasian spit in his eyes was his cameo appearance in the bible in (John 9:6 & Mark 8:22-24). He failed to mention that Alexander & Rufus has an important cameo appearance in the New Testament in Mark 15: 21-24 and helping to seize a person called Jesus was (Simon Bar Gioras aka Simon Peter) can also be detected in Josephus’s War of The Jews Book 7 Chapter 2). It’s no coincidence that the Gnostic Bassilides influence the Koran to state that Christ didn’t die on the cross but it was made to appear that way (Koran 4:157). Some of the Koranic commenters like Abdullah Yusuf Ali cite the Basilidans as its source in his footnotes #663. The other candidate was Eleazar (Lazarus). The two were both messianic militants who fought and lost to Rome. After they lost, they lost their identities from the dynasty of the Flavians, 1.Vespasian, 2.Titus and 3.Domitian (the real Trinity from which the Koran 4:171 condemns) who masks themselves as 3 Christs in 1 in the New Testament to fool everyone into worshiping them as divine. When you loose a war you do not get to write your own history.

    WHO IS WHO IN THE BIBLE:

    1. Tiberius Alexander-a nonpracting Jew, who was son of the richest man in the world, the customs collector of Alexandria. He was brother-in-law to Titus mistress Bernice (Acts 25:23) and one of the generals supporting the Romans in the siege of Jerusalem. He and Bernice helped to initiate the idea of creating the gospels to Vespasian & Titus.

    2. Bernice married Marcus, the brother of Tiberius Alexander. Bernice sister Drusilla was married to Felix, Roman procurator of Judea (52-60) is seen in Acts 24.

    3. Simon Peter a character from the gospels his real name is Simon Bar Gioras who was caught hiding under a stone cave near the Temple destruction in 70AD where "Jesus“ claims will be his rock foundation (Matthew 16:17-19). He is nickname petros meaning a stone. At the end of John 21 & WOJ book 6 Chapter 9.4 he is told that he will be bound and taken off to die. The character parodies the rebel Simon in (War of the Jews Book 7 Chapter 2 compare with Matthew 16), who was seized at the siege of Jerusalem and taken to Rome for execution and pruning for their Triumph. With Bassilides being a contemporary with Vespasian & Titus I could see why him and his followers wrote Gnostic texts stating it was Satan Peter who took “Jesus” cross and was lead to Rome by (see Matthew 16:22-25 & Luke 23:26), Vespasian, nicknamed “the mule driver” (Seut. Vesp. 1) If peter was told to follow Jesus (Vespasian and Titus) then he must have been symbolically turned into a Donkey. In Egypt Set (Satan) was depicted with human body with the donkey head. Likewise Lazarus was symbolically turned into a donkey because both were mule headed didn’t want to surrender to Rome during the war of the Jews episode.

    4. Basilides had two sons Isidore & Carpocrates. Carpocrates accused Jesus of being homosexual with young boys. However, Jesus is a composite figure and the homosexual acts were done by the second Christ Titus. Bernice was having an affair with Titus and she threaten to leave him if he didn’t break off his relationships with the young inverts (homosexuals) (see Suet, Titus.7). This information was in the original Gospel of Mark but the information was widely known by the inner circle including Basilides. The third Christ Domitian would sodomize and castrate St. Paul with a red robe of Isis and Anubis (dog-head)Mask. It’s in this context Paul states that a Dog has mutilated his flesh (Philippians 3:2-10)


    MESSIANIC TREES: SPIT IN MY EYES PLEASE

    By Andre Austin

    Roman historian Tacitus wrote:

    “The majority of the Jews were convinced that the ancient scriptures of their priests alluded to the present as the very time when the Orient would triumph and from Judaea would go forth men destined to rule the world. This mysterious prophecy really referred to Vespasian and Titus, but the common people, true to the selfish ambitions of mankind, thought that this exalted destiny was reserved for them, and not even their calamities opened their eyes to the truth.(Tacitus, Histories 5.13 also see War of the Jews 6.312-313) According to Pliny the Elder in Natural History Rome used the Olive tree when celebrating their Triumphs book XV:19 The Olive tree was symbolic of Israel and at Mount Olives where Jesus was captured by Rome.

    I want to conclude (Chapter 12 of Shakespeare’s Secret Messiah) with a number of typological linkages between Roman historian Suetonius and the New Testament to show how completely his literature was developed around its typological linkages to the New Testament. Suetonius claimed that Vespasian had performed several ‘Christ-like’ miracles immediately after his ‘Ascension’. Suetonius recorded that after a “certain divinity”- i.e the mantle of ‘Christ’-was “given him” Vespasian performed miracles obviously parallel to those of the better-known ‘Christ’, the character in the Gospels.

    Vespasian as yet lacked prestige and a certain divinity, so to speak, since he was an unexpected and still new-made emperor; but these also were given him. A man of the people who was blind, and another who was Lame , came to him together as he sat on the tribunal, begging for the help for their disorders which Serapis (Osiris, who was symbolic of corn, wheat, vines and a Tree) had promised in a dream; for the god declared that Vespasian would restore the eyes, if he would spit upon them, and give strength to the leg, if he would deign to touch it with his heel…he was at last prevailed upon his friends and tried both things in public before a large crowd; and with success. (Suetonius, Vespasian 7)

    Compare with Mark 8:22-26:

    “And he took the blind man by the hand …and spit on his eyes and put his hands on him, he asked him if he saw anything. And he looked up and said, I see men like Trees walking”

    Suetonius provides the secret basis for the image the blind man that Jesus cured first saw –“Trees like men walking”. The passage shows that-far from having blurred vision-the man saw the truth; The Flavian Christs were ‘Messianic trees”.

    On the suburban estate of the Flavian an old Oak tree, which was sacred to Mars, on each of the three occasions when Vespasian was delivered suddenly put forth a branch from its trunk, obvious indication of the destiny of each child. The first was slender and quickly withered, and so to the girl that was born died within the year; the second was very strong and long and portended great success, but the third was the image of a Tree. Therefore their father Sabinius announced to his mother that a grandson had been born to her would be a Caesar. (Suetonius, Vespasian 5 )

    The Book of Daniel 4 associated dreams and Trees with Kings. Josephus used the book of Daniel to Align Titus and Vespasian kingdom in War of the Jews which eventualy became a parody, satire and spoof.

    IN CONCLUSION:

    Let me ask you a question. (1) Whose tree is cut down in Luke 3:7-9 just before the fictional genealogy tree of Jesus is outlined? The Jews

    (2) Whose tree and branch is grafted into/onto another tree in Romans chapter 11? The Flavians

    NOTES:

    If we go back into the ancient Egyptian religion we can see where they copied the spit miracle:

    …This Osiris Pepi, he is censed…with the saliva that comes forth from the mouth of Horus, and the spittle that comes forth from the mouth of Set, wherewith Horus was purified”

    “There he spat upon the face of Horus, and did away the injury which it had received…the allusion here is to the great fight between Horus and Set, in which the former lost his eye and latter his genitals. Ra spat on the eye of Horus and healed it” (Osiris & the Egyptian Resurrection By E.A Wallis Budge Volume 1 p.105 & 159




     
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    A manuscript makes references to the effect that Jesus was understood to have engaged in possible homosexual practices involving the “rich young man” mentioned in Mark’s gospel 14:51. Let me stress that I’am not condemning homosexuality here. Good luck to those who wish to live their lives in this way so long as it’s the choice of all concerned. Iam making the point that the Christian hierarchy have been deceiving and lying to their followers right from the start. Bishop Clement’s letter was replying to a Christian who was very perturbed to be told the above story of Jesus by the gnostic group called the Carpocrates (Basilides was the father of Carpocrates and he knew Titus and Vespasian who are coded as the father & son in the 4 Gospels) It had apparently been leaked to them by an official in Alexandria. Clement’s advice, after confirming the story, was that anything which contradicts the official church view must be denied, even if it is true. The letter says to those who question official orthodoxy:

    “For even if they should say something true, one loves the truth should not, even so agree with them…to them one must never give way; nor, when they put forward their falsifications, should one concede that the secret Gospels is by Mark-but should deny it on oath. For not all true things are to be said to all men”.

    See David Icke’s The Biggest Secret p.116
     
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