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    It means Jesus did not fulfill the requirements or expectations that the Jews had for the Messiah
     
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    No....Not necessarily.
    It just means that they were expect the return of Joshua or a Moses like figure, who would free them from Roman Colonization/ Bondage/Oppression.
     
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    I believe We are all Sons and Daughters of God and potential prophets.
    The Jews did not accept Jesus as a Prophet because in some of their ancient writing he is thought of as a Egyptian taught Sorcerer and his Paternity was and is still being question by them. Some thinking he is the Child of adultery or bastard of a Roman soldier.

    They maybe anti-Jesus not sure about them being anti-Christ. Christ means anointed one, and there probable have been many anointed souls in Judaism.

    Yes so it is said in the Christian Holy Script but even the present day followers of John the Baptist question his authenticity, as John the Baptist himself did so many years ago.
     
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    I do not believe in the New Testament
    As A Rasta I know and continue to study the New Testament, so I know the New Testament better everyday.
    We are all Sons of God, so yes I accept Jesus as a Son of God
     
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    You and other like yourself may so consider then, but not I.
    Yes they reject Jesus as The Christ Messiah....within their reasoning.
     
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    Glad to have share this time and reasoning with you.....peace and blessing
     
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    One needs to define what is a Messiah, if one defines a messiah as some one who saves or delivers a people from oppression, then Jesus did not save the Jews his people from Roman oppression....so many cannot consider him a messiah in that context.

    Now the word Christ is a title usually given to one who is anointed, so being an antichrist is a misnomer unless the word christ is given a new and different meaning especially exclusive to one individual.
     
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    Please elucidated the difference?

    Not possible if so then what is this woman in John chapter 4 saying
    25. The woman saith unto him, I know that Messias cometh, which is called Christ: when he is come, he will tell us all things.
    They are used interchangeably but they are not the same, one specifically refers to one who is "anointed" or "Chosen" for a specific task or function, whilst the other refers to a "savior/liberator" .
    The confusion arises because leaders, and would be saviors and kings are always anointed.



    Thanks they are informative.
     
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    Saying Messiah and Christ means the same thing is like say a Demonstration and a Protest is the same because they are similar in meaning and is often used interchangeable.

    Look this is much ado about nothing, in other word we will be splitting hairs as the question before is very nuanced, I will say the following though and hope you catch my drift.

    Messiah is usually a living person who leads and or liberates his people, the confusion occurs because messiahs are always also anointed, and the word in Judaism/Hebraism also means to smear with oil.

    Christ as in when you are "christening" a child is the act of "anointing" after which you are the Christ. The word Christ come from the Egyptian word Krst which is the act of bathing a mummy in oil for its resurrection.

    The scripture I quoted earlier was an attempt by me to show you that the two words are not the same or the woman would not have construct such a sentence or phrase....you seemed to missed it.
    In short what she was saying(John 4:25) the way I read is - our savior/liberator comes, which is called the anointed/chosen One........can you dig it??????
     
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