Black Atheists : Atheist scientist claims religion will be gone in a generation. Is he right?

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  1. Clyde C Coger Jr

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    In the Spirit of Sankofa,




    Atheist scientist claims religion will be gone in a generation. Is he right?

    Atheist scientist and cosmologist Lawrence Krauss argues that religion will disappear like slavery did in the US. But a religious history professor replies that Krauss' understanding of religion is way off base.


    “What we need to do is present comparative religion as a bunch of interesting historical anecdotes, and show the silly reasons why they did what they did,” Krauss said at an Aug. 29 dinner presentation on cosmology and education at the Victorian Skeptics Cafe in Melbourne, Australia, in response to a question about religion being taught in schools. The video of his response was uploaded on Monday to YouTube.

    http://news.yahoo.com/atheist-scientist-claims-religion-gone-generation-222009723.html

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    The comments about organized religion and its institutions i think is spot on.

    There was an interesting survey that revealed half the respondents believed that attributed signs of climate change to the apocalypse: http://www.theatlantic.com/politics...te-change-is-a-sign-of-the-apocalypse/383029/

    I think that ties back in with the commentary about institutions. Are the people who report that they have left institutions really that less religious? It doesn't necessarily seem like the case.

    It's true that more people are moving into the doubt/disbelief camp. I'm just not sure the next generation is going to be the religion free one. Could we see a rapid decline in religion in the future? It's possible.
     
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    Well said, well put indeed ...



     
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    No. It won't.

    This man actually thinks that teaching comparative religions in schools will cancel out people's spiritual beliefs which they live by and worship by in their daily lives?!

    Ridiculous.

    Comparative world religion courses are taught in colleges and I don't even see how they've swayed away any significant number of various believers from their respective religions. .....countless Christians, Muslims, Hindus, Buddhists, and Animists all attend such courses and still retain their beliefs when the class is over.

    ...How much more would this be the case with children still under their parents' guidance?

    .....And the parents could also refuse consent for their children to take such a class.

    .....separation of church and state.

    This atheist is delusional to think otherwise.
     
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    IMO, the improper teaching of science plays a part in it.

    "And you always fear what you don't understand"

    By now the idea that global warming is a natural cycle is well understood, if not, then it should be. We have data covering the past 1 mil. years that shows the natural climate has oscillated between warm periods and ice ages.

    This guy worked it out.

    MILANKOVITCH CYCLES
    Milankovitch cycles describe the changes in the way the earth orbits the sun. These changes define the sequence of ice ages and warm periods.
    http://www.climatedata.info/Forcing/Forcing/milankovitchcycles.html


    So to understand the difference between natural cycles and what is human caused people should know about radiative forcing and how this affects earth's systems such as the atmosphere, vegetation, ice snow, and the ocean. The last time I read, the current radiative forcing levels are clearly outside of the natural cycle range.

    Radiative Forcing
    http://www.co2offsetresearch.org/aviation/RF.html

    So aside from my stance on religion, this is what I'm looking at when it comes to our climate hick-ups. It's been doing this for a very long time.

    Now as far as religion goes, it's not going anywhere, for the simple fact too many people feel they need religion to get by. And that's fine, some people need to believe in a god, I just happen to be one that don't. But I do think it will shrink the more people start to ask question and not accept non-answers in place of answers.

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    The gripe that atheists have is that the church thing religion belongs in a science class, and it don't. Religion need to stay where it should be, and that's the church, and the homes of those that believe in it. If you want to be fair about things, have science be apart of bible study, and let the questions come, and give honest answers like Adam and Eve were not the first two people created, and explain to them why.

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    And you were there when Adam and Eve were created???

    A better question is, why do people ASSUME things they don't know???
     
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    What an imbecilic statement to make...

    Doesn't this apply to you believers also? None of your were there, therefore you don't know. But you talk as if you were, you are continuing to speak without thinking.

    To use your favorite phrase: "The intelligent people know" there was no one around during the time of creation.

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    No it does not.

    Anyone intelligent enough to believe is wise enough to perceive the TRUTH in the Bible.

    Confucius say, "To know what you know and know what you do not know, is characteristic of one who knows."
     
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    It does not?????

    Are you saying that there were people around during the creation of the earth...:eek:

    Please prove this, and show how all of you believers are more intelligent than us non-believers.

    You said that my comment doesn't apply to believers, which means people were alive during the creation of the earth.

    So now prove it...

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