Black Spirituality Religion : Atheist, Non Religious - Spiritual Comfort?


Well-Known Member
Jan 31, 2004
Da Desert, literally
Professional Hitman
If I wasn't already indifferent and pessimistic, I would be after reading this reply.
What it says to me - 'hell with it, death would be comforting, there's no real reason for living.'
Yeah, I've already had those thoughts.

Maybe that's not the intended response you expected someone to have I'm sure, but you know not everybody is gonna respond in the way you intended and that's what I got from it.

So here's how I'm seeing it. 6 billion messed up folks on the planet.
Not everyone is gonna stand out and be a 'star' in whatever way possible. For them, they found their calling. They knew what they were here for. They got it and worked it.
They are the stars of the basketball team.
For the rest of us, perhaps the majority, it seems like we are just here to take up space.
Many die in vain through pain and struggle and without ever doing anything worth while. I've seen that. I think my mother was a victim of that.
So for the rest of us, we're just the bench warmers. Nothing spectacular.
And we're only the bench warmers if we were special enough to make it on the team at all.
I'm not on the team. I'm sleepin outside, in the tent, in the rain - wondering why there's even a basketball team to begin with and makin all that money.

If I were dead, I wouldn't have to worry about any of it.

But I'm not.

I'm here. In the street. In a tent. In the rain. Wondering where the hell I'm going, how I'm gonna get there, what am I going there for, what's the purpose of going there in the first place, and why the hell do I have to live and be like this before I get there?

That's an analogy but it ain't that far from the real truth, and all those questions I ask are questions I have truly asked and how I really feel.

If everyone felt as you did there would be no depression and we'd all feel good in down times.
But depression is a HUGE problem with folks, especially black people. We have an inherent disposition to depression because we live in a racist society that devalues us and we have internalized that and devalue ourselves.
Is it possible to be confident in yourself and yet still feel devalued as a whole? I would say yes because that's how I feel.

I feel like I'm a muthafriggin shizzit, and no I'm not narcissistic.
But I know where my talent lies and all I have to offer and how beautiful I am all around ... and none of it getting utilized to the degree that I want and need for it to be utilized.
I make efforts and meet failure and struggle and then have to fight and I'm too tired, too lazy, to emotionally drained, too physically ill to fight.
Givin up would be easy if I could.

If I were dead, I wouldn't have to worry about. Death ain't no big deal, but how.
But I ain't dead. I'm still here and wondering and figuring out thangs while always on the brink of some minor catastrophe.

They say 'what doesn't kill you makes you stronger.'
But it does make you wounded. It wounds your soul. It can hurt to the core and you're never quite the same.

They say 'god doesn't give you more than you can handle.'
A lie.
If that were true people wouldn't commit suicide.

Sorry for the tangent, all of it wasn't meant for you, only part of it.
The rest was just thoughts I have a lot of times.

Wow... I'm honored that my words elicit such a response and eventhough all wasn't meant for me, I feel privileged that some of your train of thought was.

Understand me. I am a contradiction. I am religious and not at once; I am agnostic, a fallibilist and moral nihilist, but not atheist. My words above were not to forsake the reality of existence or living, but to offer a point that life is a beautiful struggle. We are all privileged to experience it in whatever capacity we do. I once told a friend that life is perfect in its imperfections and that in of itself makes it magical.

We all seek to organize and understand things in a way that's meaningful for each of us and that affords us some comfort. For me, to deal with the many "failures" and "disappointments" thrown my way, I interpret them as the "flora" and "fauna" of a journey that is not promised to be anything but what I experience.

Thus far, life has offered me many amazing opportunities. I was born a country boy in rural Louisiana where my nearest neighbor, whom was an elderly cousin and wife, lived half a mile away from me. However, this journey has led me to live in the largest city in the country (Bushwick section of Brooklyn, New York City) and I have lived in every region (South, Midwest, East and now the West). I have been homeless, contemplating suicide - standing in soup lines to get government issued apricots and raisin bread to owning a multi-million dollar business with two houses. I have kissed death on more than one occasion from my years as a gangbanger (ages 14-18), having my backwindow shot out or my car rear-ended on the freeway in high speed car chases. I came one day short of being completely paralyzed from the neck down with fractures at my C6 and C7; thankfully, I haven't experienced being paralyzed, but I did endure having something taken away from me that I took for granted because it was so natural. I was unable to turn my neck for 4 months. Something so simple - that i couldn't do and I would look at people with envy because they could.

When we expect something, we develop complications when we don't get what we expect or think we deserve. I did... When I was homeless, besides contemplating suicide, substance abuse sounded tempting. Who would care any way?

We all want to do something great, leave our name behind as proof that we did indeed live and accomplished something meaningful. Sometimes the thought that we are somehow insignificant or that we are not putting our talents to full use can leave us frustrated. The fact of the matter is regardless of who we are, when our time comes - life still goes on. Do what you enjoy and feel fulfilled knowing you are putting your talents to use.

I have went from homeless, broke, suicidal and frustrated to currently owning two houses and in the works of purchasing a new home. I have a mental health business that covers all my needs and help me develop a respectable portfolio at the same time I help people in need. One of my homes we are considering to house severely mentally ill people in need of housing and support with independent living skills.

So much has life given me - good and bad, like so many others. We come out either stronger or bruised souls or sometimes, a combination of both.

Thank you for sharing your thoughts. Hopefully you can understand mine a little better.

Life is a beautiful struggle, but it is fragile. Yet magical filled with many twists and turns. Enjoy it for what it is and what it is not. Each one of us must find out what is best for us. I wish you well....

If my words make no sense, they were not said to make any... but if you were able to follow some logic behind them, take it for what it is. Nothing is true; everything is permissible.


Well-Known Member
Jan 21, 2020
Whether you find comfort or not depends on the people you surround yourself with. Christians go to church and so there is a community they access to find comfort. Comfort doesn't come from what you believe as much as it does from who else believes it too. Even if you believed in heaven and that gave you comfort that, even if this life sucked, the next wouldn't, how much would that belief give you comfort if no one else believed it?

I say that it is the community that exists around many ideas that actually provide the value people get from having/believing those ideas. An atheist doesn't have to give this up. Join a community.

While there are communities specifically for atheists, I, as an atheist, am a "Jedi". That's right. I choose a community influenced by sci-fi/fantasy just like everyone else except for the fact that we know it is influenced by fiction and do not pretend otherwise, unlike the major religions do. This is extremely freeing because it's like seeing the matrix but being able to log into the matrix whenever you want to eat steak. We don't dress up. We don't have physical churches. We don't collect tithes and offerings. It has structure and roles, but no exact path to follow which allows spirituality to still be an individual journey of self discovery and improvement. You don't need a genie on the other side of the curtain promising eternal life if you participate. You can provide your own motivation and see the value in morality and spirituality on your own.

Some might be wondering, "but you're an atheist so how is it that you believe in 'the force'?"

Easy answer. Science tells us that everything, including ourselves, is energy. The physical keyboard I'm using right now is energy. The signals it sends to the processor; also energy. People want there to be a higher intelligence but I don't belie that "the force" is a supernatural sentient life form. I think that energy itself is metaphorically "living" as it is animated. And it is the movement and flow of energy that evolves and becomes everything else, including consciousness. Until the idea of life itself evolves into more intelligent definitions. So, to me, that energy is "the force" and this was simply how it was portrayed in popular culture.


Well-Known Member
Jun 18, 2004
north philly ghetto
retired computer geek

Is Trump Going to Prison?

  • yes

  • no

Results are only viewable after voting.

Latest profile posts

HODEE wrote on nevar's profile.
Blessings ~ Georgia Peach
cherryblossom wrote on watzinaname's profile.
Dropping by to say, "Hi!" ,sister Watz. Hope all is well.